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[Aedra]

the russkies fought the roaches because the latter were muhammadans, not because they were black (which they are albeit)

Don't bother trying to explain it to him. He'd rather assume the Russians hated non-whites despite people like Saint Tikhon of Moscow or Herman of Alaska defending native Alaskans as much as they could.

We must help our brothers in the Faith. It does not matter that they belong to a different, less civilised race. It is not civilisation at all—which shamefully is preached by some—wherein the sole idea is that the white race must not only be prevailing in the world, but must wipe out the other ‘coloured’ races; and if the natives die, it’s for the better, so it’s not worth taking care of them. True civilisation consists in giving as many people as possible access to the benefits of life, to elevate the lower races to the level of the higher ones. Since all people originate from one man, all are children of one Heavenly Father; all were redeemed by the most pure blood of Christ; in Whom ‘there is neither Jew nor Greek, slave nor free’. All are brothers and must love one another—love one another not only in words, but in deeds as well. And so in the name of this love of Christ, we must help our brothers of the far north.

The Russians were not like the westerners. Their colonization did not involve genocides and they put religion above race, so much so that they were known as the protector of Orthodox Christians within the Ottoman Empire.The Chuvash were also a Turkic people Christianized by the Russians. No genocide, only conversion to Holy Orthodoxy.

 

[AshkeNazi]

Don't bother trying to explain it to him. He'd rather assume the Russians hated non-whites despite people like Saint Tikhon of Moscow or Herman of Alaska defending native Alaskans as much as they could.

The Russians were not like the westerners. Their colonization did not involve genocides and they put religion above race, so much so that they were known as the protector of Orthodox Christians within the Ottoman Empire.The Chuvash were also a Turkic people Christianized by the Russians. No genocide, only conversion to Holy Orthodoxy.
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also the first american saint was an aleut who was killed by papists for converting to orthodoxy

 

[Nihilma]

They denounced their opinions on black people.

You said that the heresy is putting your nation/race above God, right? I don't do that, put I still put it above other races and nations. Therefore it's not a heresy.

That's logic, not mental gymnastics.

The Russians, in fact, were against Turks like you.

Interesting how you're saying the church was le wholesome100 updooterino.

It's heresy to go against the final decision of the Church over a settled dispute.
Moreover, if blacks and other races you deem inferior can be saints, to God they are not inferior.
Whatever you call inferior, if God accepts them on the same level as other saints from other races and dismisses sinners from your race, race doesn't matter to Him.

 

[AshkeNazi]

"There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus." (Gal 3:28)

 

[Nihilma]

"There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus." (Gal 3:28)

The verse that makes all /pol/tards either convert to north larpanism or ack themselves

 

[Hydrosophy]

"There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus." (Gal 3:28)

holy valid

 

[Weebhunter3000]

holy valid

I look like this and say this.

 

[X Immigrant]

It's heresy to go against the final decision of the Church over a settled dispute.

All they 'decided' was to make polypleitism a heresy.

Moreover, if blacks and other races you deem inferior can be saints, to God they are not inferior.

A majority of them are, but as I said, there are a few good ones.

Whatever you call inferior, if God accepts them on the same level as other saints from other races and dismisses sinners from your race, race doesn't matter to Him.

God has advocated towards the killings of specific ethnicities, as said before.

"There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus." (Gal 3:28)

That's fine, but some are sinners, and some races are more predisposed to sinning(hence why niggers act more violent more than whites).

 

[X Immigrant]

Don't bother trying to explain it to him. He'd rather assume the Russians hated non-whites despite people like Saint Tikhon of Moscow or Herman of Alaska defending native Alaskans as much as they could.

THERE ARE A FEW GOOD ONES I KEEP SAYING THIS

The Russians were not like the westerners. Their colonization did not involve genocides and they put religion above race, so much so that they were known as the protector of Orthodox Christians within the Ottoman Empire.The Chuvash were also a Turkic people Christianized by the Russians. No genocide, only conversion to Holy Orthodoxy.
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Buddy, do you know what happened to the Siberians, Circasians, and Central Asians?

 

[Nihilma]

A majority of them are, but as I said, there are a few good ones.

That's not how the concept of race works.
The racist ideas is the human is separated into different genetic groups that define and confine their behaviour, as well as their superiority or inferiority.
Meaning that if someone is born with a certain colour of skin, this person is confined to certain things, behaviours, roles, hierarchy, et cetera.
In this idea, a person of an inferior race, because of xher genes, can never be better than a person of a superior race.

In that case, there never could even BE black saints, or arab saints, or whatever, and all would be of the superior cast.
Because in the end, what the Bible and the Church teaches, is that it isn't intelligence nor physical prowess that define the superiority of a man over another, but how close one is to God.

And it seems like God didn't make it so a race has an easier time getting closer to God than another

 

[X Immigrant]

That's not how the concept of race works.
The racist ideas is the human is separated into different genetic groups that define and confine their behaviour, as well as their superiority or inferiority.
Meaning that if someone is born with a certain colour of skin, this person is confined to certain things, behaviours, roles, hierarchy, et cetera.
In this idea, a person of an inferior race, because of xher genes, can never be better than a person of a superior race.

That's some serious pedantry you're practicing.

In that case, there never could even BE black saints, or arab saints, or whatever, and all would be of the superior cast.
Because in the end, what the Bible and the Church teaches, is that it isn't intelligence nor physical prowess that define the superiority of a man over another, but how close one is to God.

Well people who are closer to (a Christian) God will naturally be more likely to be physically and mentally fit and live a longer life and we have the highest IQ for a religion.

And it seems like God didn't make it so a race has an easier time getting closer to God than another

Most saints are white.

 

[Nihilma]

That's fine, but some are sinners, and some races are more predisposed to sinning(hence why niggers act more violent more than whites).

This idea can be found nowhere in the Bible nor in Church teaching.
That some people can be more sinful, yes. But that it is inherited in ancestry from father to son, the only case of this in the Bible is with adam and original sin, which all humans have inherited. Every other time, and most notably with Jesus himself, it is said that sin isn't inherited from Father to son and so forth. For God accepts repentence.

You say niggers are more prone to violence than whites, but this varies a lot depending on the region, on the political stability of the region they live in and of the confession of the individuals. There are a lot of christian africans who suffer every day because of their faith and the persecussion they face, and some still chose to make a vow of peace and love to their ennemies.

Depending on the culture, sin can be spread in different ways. Germanic countries are less violent, but are sexually way more corrupt (Netherlands, Sweden, Germany, et cetera).
Sin always finds a way

 

[Nihilma]

Most saints are white.

A lot of them were represented that way, but berbers for example have been an african tribe for the longest, they are not caucasian even if they were part of the roman empire.
And Augustine was a berber.
A lot of medieval saints were white, that is true, but the earliest Church Fathers and saints were a lot more diverse, because they happened to exist before the fall of the roman empire

 

[X Immigrant]

A lot of them were represented that way, but berbers for example have been an african tribe for the longest, they are not caucasian even if they were part of the roman empire.
And Augustine was a berber.

These are all Berbers. I'm not a fool, most are black but maybe some of them aren't.

A lot of medieval saints were white, that is true, but the earliest Church Fathers and saints were a lot more diverse, because they happened to exist before the fall of the roman empire.

They were the best of the best, of course the Africans would at least be tolerable.

 

[Nihilma]

Also it isn't pedantry, accusing me of that is fallacy, I'm pointing out why the racist idea is incompatible with the idea of sin and redemptive theology.
Racism to me is absurd because it classifies every individual of a genetic group as having certain traits, when it is not true that every individual possesses them, yet this is how genetic works.
Therefore I conclude that it is not genetics that impact the behaviour (or at least not significantly to make possible a hierarchy) of a person but the culture they grow in, and the current cultures of poverty and misery that some live in makes it so they act more primitively, as expected.

But I know a lot of black christians from different african countries personally, I spend a lot of time with them studying scriptures and arguing theology, and I admire their faith a lot.

 

[Nihilma]

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These are all Berbers. I'm not a fool, most are black but maybe some of them aren't.

They were the best of the best, of course the Africans would at least be tolerable.

I'm sure you get my point though, a white berber and a black berber are genetically more closely related than a black berber and a black somali, because the philogenetics separate way earlier.

And yes I'd agree, the early Church Fathers are probably the best examples of faith we still have to this day, my point is that they were more diverse in colour because of the political nature of the times, and the reason why during the middle ages most saints were white is also because of the political nature of the times : Europe was separated from the east, both were separated from Africa by the arabs, so we could only canonize those whom we knew the lives of the best, aka those closer to us

 

[X Immigrant]

>NOOOOOOOO YOU CAN'T BE RACIST IF YOU THINK SOME NIGGERINOES ARE OK
Some Africans win the genetic lottery of their race and are tolerable. I still think all the rest are unbearable.
>NOOOOO IT'S NOT GENETIC

The 2-repeat allele of the MAOA gene confers an increased risk for shooting and stabbing behaviors - PubMed

There has been a great deal of research examining the link between a polymorphism in the promoter region of the MAOA gene and antisocial phenotypes. The results of these studies have consistently revealed that low activity MAOA alleles are related to antisocial behaviors for males who were...

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Also, Aboriginals(blacks) have more genetic distance between whites than dogs and wolves. They're a different species.
>DA CULTURE
Yes, kind of, but the genetics is undeniable.

 

[Nihilma]

Trvke, I haven't denied the existence of genetic differences. I argue that, especially when it comes to IQ (due mainly to brain plasticity, a subject I currently study in my lessons), which is a gene we all share as homo sapiens, culture has more of an impact than genes.
On other aspects, maybe genes have more of an impact, I don't deny that.

However, genes are insufficient and a false metric to standardize a hierarchy of superiority and inferiority between races.
A black raised christian and a white raised christian, if educated properly have the same chances of developping a similar IQ, because again of brain plasticity and the impact of education on the brain's development from infancy to adulthood

 

[Nihilma]

And this, is ofc by taking also into account what I said earlier about how God actually sees us

 

[X Immigrant]

So you're saying white culture is superior? I could get behind that.
But then...

>On other aspects, maybe genes have more of an impact, I don't deny that

You're saying whites are slightly superior?