Discussion How did countries legalize homosexuality?

[Pansexual Goddess]

True, can’t discount the waves of women pretending to be bisexual

All women are bisexual:

https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1111/j.0956-7976.2004.00750.x

"In contrast to men, women showed little category specificity on either the genital or the subjective measure. Both heterosexual and homosexual women experienced strong genital arousal to both male and female sexual stimuli."

Women who claim to be straight are bad at assessing their sexual orientation or lying:

Sexual arousal: The correspondence of eyes and genitals

Men's, more than women's, sexual responses may include a coordination of several physiological indices in order to build their sexual arousal to relev…

www.sciencedirect.com

 

[bogus amogus]

Its all part of a general historical trend: the push to equality. For example, the abolitionist movement and the early feminist movement was largely motivated (and perhaps made inevitable) by this trend. In the modern age, most people are (lawfully) equal, but the perpetual cycle of progress does not slow down, and looks for new causes, regardless of depravity.

 

[princessparkles]

>7.1% of America's population
America is filled with old people, just under 30% of gen Z Americans identify as gay or transgender.

tbh younger people in general want to identify as something stupid now anyway - shouldn’t really trust the census until their hormones have actually settled
i thought i was gay for a week because i liked my best friend
turns out i just really liked her
americans are stupid they won’t see the difference between like and love

 

[princessparkles]

All women are bisexual:

https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1111/j.0956-7976.2004.00750.x

"In contrast to men, women showed little category specificity on either the genital or the subjective measure. Both heterosexual and homosexual women experienced strong genital arousal to both male and female sexual stimuli."

Women who claim to be straight are bad at assessing their sexual orientation or lying:

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Sexual arousal: The correspondence of eyes and genitals

Men's, more than women's, sexual responses may include a coordination of several physiological indices in order to build their sexual arousal to relev…

www.sciencedirect.com

but also this - you’re kind of right but also not. i feel like women just were more open with our bodies and feelings and therefore have a certain type of closeness with eachother that men can’t understand
i sit on my friends laps and sleep in the same bed etc but we aren’t gay, but a man who did that would be gay
maybe by other people’s opinions it’s bisexuality but i think women just appreciate beauty more, and are more sensual creatures in general and so are perceived as such

tldr i am not bisexual.

 

[Pansexual Goddess]

but also this - you’re kind of right but also not. i feel like women just were more open with our bodies and feelings and therefore have a certain type of closeness with eachother that men can’t understand
i sit on my friends laps and sleep in the same bed etc but we aren’t gay, but a man who did that would be gay
maybe by other people’s opinions it’s bisexuality but i think women just appreciate beauty more, and are more sensual creatures in general and so are perceived as such

tldr i am not bisexual.

Nah the real explanation is that female sexuality is completely different from men's, its more fluid and manifests differently. Men's is really animalistic and visually driven, meanwhile women can get off to abstract scenarios, no matter the genders involved. Straight men have a repulsion towards the opposite sex in sexual scenarios, which women dont have.

 

[princessparkles]

. Straight men have a repulsion towards the opposite sex in sexual scenarios, which women dont have.

what do you mean by this - like
so if i imagined a woman sexually i could like it? and that’s in my nature not anything i can do about it?
and then if a man imagines a man sexually he can’t? or

 

[Nihilma]

Its most likely not genetic so it won't disappear, theres no flaw in the ideology

Agreed, homosexuality most likely won't disappear because it's a nurtur, not nature, meaning it's a life-threatening (literally, it prevents reproduction) flaw that is constructed by an imperfect environment. So it can be fixed.

 

[Pansexual Goddess]

so if i imagined a woman sexually i could like it? and that’s in my nature not anything i can do about it?

Yeah if you wanted to. As long as its the proper erotic scenario its possible. Researchers managed to get women who labeled themselves "100% straight" to be aroused by videos of other women masturbating:

"On average, women of all sexual orientations were physiologically sexually aroused to both sexes (Figs. 2 and 6), a finding consistent with the literature (Chivers et al., 2007; Rieger & SavinWilliams, 2012)."

and then if a man imagines a man sexually he can’t? or

Men can imagine other men sexually but it has negative arousal, it feels 'disgusting' you could say. Only if they're straight, of course.

 

[SoytanEnthusiast]

Bla bla bla take the meds and BBC schizo

 

[Nihilma]

Yeah if you wanted to. As long as its the proper erotic scenario its possible. Researchers managed to get women who labeled themselves "100% straight" to be aroused by videos of other women masturbating:

"On average, women of all sexual orientations were physiologically sexually aroused to both sexes (Figs. 2 and 6), a finding consistent with the literature (Chivers et al., 2007; Rieger & SavinWilliams, 2012)."



Men can imagine other men sexually but it has negative arousal, it feels 'disgusting' you could say. Only if they're straight, of course.

Interesting honestly. I'm not surprised for the longest I've said homosexuality is not something that is genetical, but rather a deformation of the base sexuality due to association of concepts in order to breed a negative attitude towards heterosexual activity and/or a positive attitude towards homosexual ones.

I think it's purely a mental illness, where biology, if it plays a role at all, only partakes minimally in the creation of this result

 

[Pansexual Goddess]

Agreed, homosexuality most likely won't disappear because it's a nurtur, not nature, meaning it's a life-threatening (literally, it prevents reproduction) flaw that is constructed by an imperfect environment. So it can be fixed.

We have no idea how its formed thoughbeit. We have no clue how it functions and develops psychologically, whether its during the fetal stage or up until a certain age. It used to happen when it wasnt accepted so its likely not a social contagion. Our best bet is to be accepting of it until we discover ways to influence it.

it's a life-threatening (literally, it prevents reproduction) flaw

Nah i feel like if humanity were to somehow turn 100% homosexual overnight, we'd be concerned enough to either find a way to reverse it, or develop a completely different culture around having kids - every family is a gay couple, everyone does surrogacy. So its not guaranteed extinction if we try hard enough. Gays aren't exactly infertile after all

 

[Nihilma]

We have no idea how its formed thoughbeit. We have no clue how it functions and develops psychologically, whether its during the fetal stage or up until a certain age. It used to happen when it wasnt accepted so its likely not a social contagion. Our best bet is to be accepting of it until we discover ways to influence it.

Nah i feel like if humanity were to somehow turn 100% homosexual overnight, we'd be concerned enough to either find a way to reverse it, or develop a completely different culture around having kids - every family is a gay couple, everyone does surrogacy. So its not guaranteed extinction if we try hard enough. Gays aren't exactly infertile after all

I mean if "accepting it" means not stoning them on sight yeah sure. But were I'am at we're far beyond this, and we're getting in territory I feel completely uneasy at. Giving children to homosexual couples, medically assisted procreation, all goes way too far for me, and "accepting" that for me is not okay.

Ofc marriage of homosexuals in the Church is heresy too, but ima be fr if you wanna live together I don't think it's realistic for the government to say no.

Also, no matter the source of homosexuality, we for sure can influence sexual behaviour, or the result, as you showed with the woman stuff experience being shown fucking gay ass porn or whatever. So while the source may be unknown, you can change the outcome

Also for the life threatening stuff, I meant that on an individual level. If you're a homo, your bloodline is fucked

 

[Pansexual Goddess]

Interesting honestly. I'm not surprised for the longest I've said homosexuality is not something that is genetical, but rather a deformation of the base sexuality due to association of concepts in order to breed a negative attitude towards heterosexual activity and/or a positive attitude towards homosexual ones.

I think it's purely a mental illness, where biology, if it plays a role at all, only partakes minimally in the creation of this result

Yeah it might be entirely fluid. For example couples in arranged marriages end up finding each other more and more attractive with time:

How Love Emerges in Arranged Marriages: Two Cross-cultural Studies on JSTOR

Robert Epstein, Mayuri Pandit, Mansi Thakar, How Love Emerges in Arranged Marriages: Two Cross-cultural Studies, Journal of Comparative Family Studies, Vol. 44, No. 3 (MAY-JUNE 2013), pp. 341-360

www.jstor.org

 

[princessparkles]

Yeah if you wanted to. As long as its the proper erotic scenario its possible. Researchers managed to get women who labeled themselves "100% straight" to be aroused by videos of other women masturbating:

"On average, women of all sexual orientations were physiologically sexually aroused to both sexes (Figs. 2 and 6), a finding consistent with the literature (Chivers et al., 2007; Rieger & SavinWilliams, 2012)."



Men can imagine other men sexually but it has negative arousal, it feels 'disgusting' you could say. Only if they're straight, of course.

OH SHIT IM GAY?

 

[JC Denton]

OH SHIT IM GAY?

I'm getting the stones ready xister

 

[princessparkles]

I'm getting the stones ready xister

NOOOO PLEASE HAVE MERCY
I DOTN WANT TO BE GAY
i’m not gay im not gay im not GAY im not gay im not a faggot i’m straight i’m a STRAIGHT WOMAN

 

[Disabled Male]

All women are bisexual:

https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1111/j.0956-7976.2004.00750.x

"In contrast to men, women showed little category specificity on either the genital or the subjective measure. Both heterosexual and homosexual women experienced strong genital arousal to both male and female sexual stimuli."

Women who claim to be straight are bad at assessing their sexual orientation or lying:

View attachment 4555

Sexual arousal: The correspondence of eyes and genitals

Men's, more than women's, sexual responses may include a coordination of several physiological indices in order to build their sexual arousal to relev…

www.sciencedirect.com

I also want to point out that if we map all the women to the bisexual category we don't explain the rest of reality outside this survey, where they do identify as different things. IIRC lesbians/bi-women are high in openmindedness and agreeableness, which kind of makes sense with them accepting a provided conception of themselves rather naively. "Oh, I guess I must be the type of girl who marries a girl." If this is the case little other explanation is required for increased lesbianism- the idea of being an exclusive lesbian is floated more, so more women (and even men...) latch on to it.

I figure that sometimes chad is supposed to have multiple women. Female attraction can serve as a manifestation of the evolutionary tendency towards pre selection. Women get aroused when women around them are aroused, which is more likely to happen when a male is making them aroused. If a male is arousing women, he's peer reviewed for local fitness. The implication doesn't have to be that they want to do a weird sex thing with the women, just that they should get horny because chad is around. Lesbians are like extra women for guy who has the high score.

The other side of mapping both straight women and "lesbians" to bisexuality is that for a lot of women you can arguably map them to asexuality. "Lesbian bed death" seems to indicate that lesbians are not as lesbian as they think they are. The two questions are then: how often, and to what degree, they are faking female attraction? falsely denying male attraction?

I also wonder if absence of male attraction is a trait that exists to filter males lacking competence/commitment, the same way that a protective father might. "playing hard to get" being a more conscious manifestation of the same thing. Doesn't work as well anymore because chad is not encouraged to duel the father, kidnap a bride, etc. This theory does not work that well with the observation that lesbians are agreeable and openminded, but neither does exclusive lesbianism. It can't be the butch vs princess dynamic skewing the data because lesbians are mostly butch.

I think it would be funny if a chad who likes athletic lesbian types used a feminine collaborator as bait and wingman. This would also be very tranny.

 

[ILoveVesna]

What made all of the western countries decide that allowing homosexuality is fine? I wonder how the people who passed the laws would feel if their son did it. Basically killing his future in every way possible, and ruining morals

If the vocal minority becomes a vocal majority you cannot really do anything
They indoctrinate (only le bad if it’s not my side) and spread their ideology through personal relations
Later on more and more people publicly join and it gets spread though media
At this point it cannot be stopped and gov has no choice but to fold
Unless the root cause is exterminated it will keep going on
Through a stronger government and harsher regulations on media and general social life the cycle can be broken

 

[Weebhunter3000]

Did not read this homo infested thread but

Also soytan is handcrafted for dat bibisi

Das a trvth nvke right there.

 

[Aedra]

Ofc marriage of homosexuals in the Church is heresy too, but ima be fr if you wanna live together I don't think it's realistic for the government to say no.

You aren't even Christian. Just a hippie pretending to be one. Here's a better solution for dealing with sodomites : burning at the stake.