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All churches are pagan faggotry. Read your bible normie religious dbags. If your priests wear faggot capes and gold fringed dresses, they might be modern day pharisees. Derpa derpa derpati dooooo... religion is for fags and you might be one too.
 
1. He believes in evolution. Evolution is in fact nothing but a fairy tale and is incompatible with Christianity. He also takes his hypocrisy a step further and claims to be against racism while believing in evolution. This is another contradiction, a contradiction within a contradiction in fact. An evolutionary worldview is a necessarily racist one. If I believed in evolution I would cease to believe in Christ and instead I'd believe in Tengrism or some shit and I'd be a Turkic supremacist. Being anti-racist only makes sense if you believe in Creationism, otherwise it's essentially just denying reality. I'd be even more racist than weebhunter is if I believed in evolution.

2. He supports ecumenism. I am not interested in any cooperation between heretics. There's only one truth, one church. All the others are false to varying degrees.

3. He does not dislike the jews or judaism despite the fact that all of our saints and church fathers dislike them. Setting aside Eastern Orthodoxy, even medieval Catholic saints and of course Martin Luther himself hated the jews but he intentionally ignores this.

4. He has once stated here that he takes great pride in "being quite normal". Especially emphasizing how he does not hate jews, women or whatever. Christians are not supposed to be normal, we are supposed to be defiant towards social norms that go against our belief at every step of the way. This is basically him taking pride in being a good goy for his cucked secular society.

5. This is a fault I find within most western Christians but this man believes in rationalism more than he believes in Christ, there's always a sort of pseudo-intellectual aura surrounding his explanations of Christianity. He attempts to justify the faith to the world, to le science, le facts, bla bla bla. This is when a man relegates his religion to the second place in favor of worldly ideologies. Science should be subject to Christianity, not the other way around. If the findings of modern scientist cunts and their fairy tales contradict the faith, then to hell with their science. I'm not interested in reconciling the two, because they oppose each other.

6. He believes men and women are equal when they are in fact not equal. We are equal in Christ as said in Galatians 3:28 but not within this world, there is no such thing as equality in this world. The church fathers who speak about women's position within society imply no equality whatsoever. They say women are inferior to men without hesitation. Therefore that is the view I will have no matter how many modern cucks get offended by it. Sorry not sorry.
You are right on these points (I of course have a differing but still similar perception to the second one, since we are of different denominations, after all). I guess I never read where he said he believed in evolution, but it is sad to hear. On the topic of ecumenism, do you think followers of other churches/denominations will still attain salvation as long as they at least believe in the core belief that Christ's gift of salvation through absolving us of punishment for our sins is what will get them to heaven? Do you think there's more to it than that?
 
On the topic of ecumenism, do you think followers of other churches/denominations will still attain salvation as long as they at least believe in the core belief that Christ's gift of salvation through absolving us of punishment for our sins is what will get them to heaven? Do you think there's more to it than that?
I have already written about this on X Immigrant's thread if you remember. But basically the position of Orthodoxy on this is not clear cut and that's normal because Eastern Orthodoxy does not attempt to explain more than what has been clearly revealed to us. All I can say *for sure* is the following : salvation is found within the Orthodox Church first and foremost and an Orthodox Christian who betrays Orthodoxy will be damned forever. But beyond that I cannot say where salvation is or isn't found in. Our Lord is a merciful God, we can say that He knows what to do and that we should leave this matter to Him instead of making a dogma around it. So the best I can say is, I hope different people will be saved too but I cannot say for sure whether they will be saved or not. That's up to the Lord. It is always like this within Eastern Orthodoxy when it comes to matters that have not been explicitly revealed to us, there are some things only God can know.
 
To me I find it unfair if that’s the case. Say two children are dying of cancer, but only one survives because their family prayed for him, while the other child dies because his family didn’t.
Ultimately praying for something is a sign of adoration more than anything. We do believe that God answers, but sometimes his answer is still no.
One family friend had his wife die of cancer a few years after they got married.
The Our Father prayer begins with "Our father who are in heaven, hallowed be thy name, thy will be done on earth as it is in heaven".
Ultimately, that is what every christian should pray when asking for something "thy will be done".

Whatever happens needs to happen, for the future would be different if they did not happen. Elihu in Job has some great lines about this, as does God in the end of the book.
"Where were you when I laid the earth’s foundation?
Tell me, if you understand.
Who marked off its dimensions? Surely you know!
Who stretched a measuring line across it?"
Whatever is needs to be, that much is pretty easy to understand if you have the slightest knowledge of time travel fiction. Change the slightest event in the past, and you disappear.

So it isn't a rule of thumb. Matter of fact lots of children who are prayed for die, and some children who are not prayed for survive.
But God has a plan for each person on earth, andd the only responsability of man is to chose whether they wanna serve or work against God. Ultimately everything will bee in favour of God. Tolkien wrote a great deal about this, that evil defeats itself in the end. But that a man who serves God ultimately receives help from God to better serve him isn't a far fetched idea either.
 
Ultimately praying for something is a sign of adoration more than anything. We do believe that God answers, but sometimes his answer is still no.
One family friend had his wife die of cancer a few years after they got married.
The Our Father prayer begins with "Our father who are in heaven, hallowed be thy name, thy will be done on earth as it is in heaven".
Ultimately, that is what every christian should pray when asking for something "thy will be done".

Whatever happens needs to happen, for the future would be different if they did not happen. Elihu in Job has some great lines about this, as does God in the end of the book.
"Where were you when I laid the earth’s foundation?
Tell me, if you understand.
Who marked off its dimensions? Surely you know!
Who stretched a measuring line across it?"
Whatever is needs to be, that much is pretty easy to understand if you have the slightest knowledge of time travel fiction. Change the slightest event in the past, and you disappear.

So it isn't a rule of thumb. Matter of fact lots of children who are prayed for die, and some children who are not prayed for survive.
But God has a plan for each person on earth, andd the only responsability of man is to chose whether they wanna serve or work against God. Ultimately everything will bee in favour of God. Tolkien wrote a great deal about this, that evil defeats itself in the end. But that a man who serves God ultimately receives help from God to better serve him isn't a far fetched idea either.
tolkien really has you on a chokehold geg
 
Ultimately praying for something is a sign of adoration more than anything. We do believe that God answers, but sometimes his answer is still no.
One family friend had his wife die of cancer a few years after they got married.
The Our Father prayer begins with "Our father who are in heaven, hallowed be thy name, thy will be done on earth as it is in heaven".
Ultimately, that is what every christian should pray when asking for something "thy will be done".

Whatever happens needs to happen, for the future would be different if they did not happen. Elihu in Job has some great lines about this, as does God in the end of the book.
"Where were you when I laid the earth’s foundation?
Tell me, if you understand.
Who marked off its dimensions? Surely you know!
Who stretched a measuring line across it?"
Whatever is needs to be, that much is pretty easy to understand if you have the slightest knowledge of time travel fiction. Change the slightest event in the past, and you disappear.

So it isn't a rule of thumb. Matter of fact lots of children who are prayed for die, and some children who are not prayed for survive.
But God has a plan for each person on earth, andd the only responsability of man is to chose whether they wanna serve or work against God. Ultimately everything will bee in favour of God. Tolkien wrote a great deal about this, that evil defeats itself in the end. But that a man who serves God ultimately receives help from God to better serve him isn't a far fetched idea either.

If you want to make God laugh tell him your plan.
 
In 10 minutes I am going to attend church for the second time this week because I missed it last week and I need to make up for it.
 
In 10 minutes I am going to attend church for the second time this week because I missed it last week and I need to make up for it.

We have church on this forum anytime we post scripture.

"Read your bible son." - Umknown Chudarisee
 
One thing that's always on my mind is how much I despise the lukewarm Christians of the west, even more than I despise those who do not believe. Someone who's lukewarm and willing to disregard set in stone dogma is more dangerous than someone who does not believe. It's essentially just an enemy within, someone who will contribute to subverting our values. I'd put Nihilma in this category, unfortunately.
Am...I lukewarm Aedra-sama? I already know I am when it comes to IQ, I just don't know whether I am when it comes to theology.

also I really miss the old arguments. Hopefully there's a catalyst to make them happen again.
 
Am...I lukewarm Aedra-sama? I already know I am when it comes to IQ, I just don't know whether I am when it comes to theology.

also I really miss the old arguments. Hopefully there's a catalyst to make them happen again.

All religions are worse than luke-warm.

"Read your bible son." - Unknown Chudarisee
 
Am...I lukewarm Aedra-sama? I already know I am when it comes to IQ, I just don't know whether I am when it comes to theology.

also I really miss the old arguments. Hopefully there's a catalyst to make them happen again.
You're fine. No one's perfect. Plus I'm not the judge of anyone. I simply read the church fathers/ecumenical councils/bible/saints and repeat what they say. I will also say I have issues with being far too critical. No matter how right our position might be, we are still commanded to do whatever we do with love. I'm really desensitized to everything so this whole compassion part has always been difficult for me. I'm also overly legalistic perhaps when Orthodoxy isn't supposed to be like that. At least it did dawn on me though.
Basically don't beat yourself up over my comments. I'm too critical of everyone and it can get overly harsh.
 
You're fine. No one's perfect. Plus I'm not the judge of anyone. I simply read the church fathers/ecumenical councils/bible/saints and repeat what they say. I will also say I have issues with being far too critical. No matter how right our position might be, we are still commanded to do whatever we do with love. I'm really desensitized to everything so this whole compassion part has always been difficult for me. I'm also overly legalistic perhaps when Orthodoxy isn't supposed to be like that. At least it did dawn on me though.
Basically don't beat yourself up over my comments. I'm too critical of everyone and it can get overly harsh.
Pleasantly surprised with this post.
Am...I lukewarm Aedra-sama? I already know I am when it comes to IQ, I just don't know whether I am when it comes to theology.

also I really miss the old arguments. Hopefully there's a catalyst to make them happen again.
On my part I don't wanna take parts in debates which have at end goal no edification, no resolution and just more distate for one another.
So as of now I'll carefully chose which discussions and posts I'll take part and reply to.
If it's just inflammatory comments then count me out.
 
post ugandan gospel songs btw
There was a thread on the 'party's /mtv/ for a while that was specifically for Ugandan gospel, not sure why since it seems like a pretty specific genre, albeit there was this song in there that was pleasant (also not sure why Obama just kind of shows up twice in the music video, I guess they're showing him as an example of a temporary, worldly king in contrast to the eternity of God?).
 
There was a thread on the 'party's /mtv/ for a while that was specifically for Ugandan gospel, not sure why since it seems like a pretty specific genre, albeit there was this song in there that was pleasant (also not sure why Obama just kind of shows up twice in the music video, I guess they're showing him as an example of a temporary, worldly king in contrast to the eternity of God?).
I think it was because there was a song of it in a filthyfrank video, and no one bothered looking up "ugandan gospel music" on the 'tube so it was labeled heckin lost media for years, causing a surge in popularity eventually leading to that thread
 
I think it was because there was a song of it in a filthyfrank video, and no one bothered looking up "ugandan gospel music" on the 'tube so it was labeled heckin lost media for years, causing a surge in popularity eventually leading to that thread
Ah, I see.
 
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