thread_prefix.19 General christian thread

Christcacas actually won
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Aedra said:
@Nihilma here's a video about the archbishop of the Greek Church in America. This man is basically a CIA agent dressed in fancy robes, you will find yourself fully agreeing with me once you watch it.
Additionally, the pattern of the patriarchs in Constantinople being subverted has been a thing for at least a century. This schism was already coming.
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I have more, but even from these alone any sane man who looks at this from the Orthodox perspective can realize that the Greeks are in the wrong.
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5 minutes in I'm already seething. Impressive
 
Nihilma said:
Christians don't see the Bible the same way muslim see the quran.
Muslims believe the qurans is the litteral almost God written word of God, written in the holy language that is arabic, which is the reason as to why reading the quran in another language is seen as unholy.

Christians see the Bible as a composition of books written by humans who have been inspired to write by God. The Bible is thus the inspired Word of God. It is divine, and God speaks through the Bible, but it is important to understand that there is still a human component to the Bible, anf that the numerous books of the Bible were written at different times, by different people with different background.
God used all of these people, but they are very different.

And that's the point. The Word of God isn't just the bible, it is whatever God gives us of his truth, the true doctrine, the orthodoxia. And the Bible is part of this truth, but so is a preacher moved by the Holy Spirit, so is tradition, et cetera et cetera.

And christians try to understand where the Word of God is, and where it isn't.
And on the Bible, christians disagree on some books of the Old Testament on whether these books are inspired or not. But on 90% of the books of the Bible, including every single book of the New Testament, christians agree.

My point is that there surely are way more texts outside of the Bible, maybe some even written today, which have the inspired Word of God in them.

But the Bible is very useful as it is some of the oldest inspiration, and thus a very important testimony and faith deposit of the Church.
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Do YOU, @baqqrih , disagree with this?
 
JC Denton said:
One of the main criticisms that mudslimes use against christianity is that there are so many bibles that it's impossible to tell which is real or which has added verses (or even if any of them is the true bible). So following a religion whose members don't even agree on its scripture is illogical since the scripture is the most important part of the religion and without it the religion is meaningless. What do YOU christcucks say in response to that?
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Also tou VVIL give me your answer to this and you VVIL like it
 
JC Denton said:
Do YOU, @baqqrih , disagree with this?
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Now that I have read it, I don't. The Bible is a composition of books written by men, but they were divinely inspired with the Holy Spirit, therefore I believe as much as it was written by men it was also equally written by the Holy Spirit, a nature of God, therefore it is the word of God (God-breathed, as 2 Timothy describes). I was under the impression when you mentioned it that he denied any divine inspiration, but I was mistaken.
 
Aedra said:
@Nihilma here's a video about the archbishop of the Greek Church in America. This man is basically a CIA agent dressed in fancy robes, you will find yourself fully agreeing with me once you watch it.
Additionally, the pattern of the patriarchs in Constantinople being subverted has been a thing for at least a century. This schism was already coming.
View attachment 18015
I have more, but even from these alone any sane man who looks at this from the Orthodox perspective can realize that the Greeks are in the wrong.
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Btw finished this, and beyond the stance on social issues which is already a big problem, the biggest problem to me seems to be his views and actions towards other bishops and the ecumenical patriarch. It's beyond disrespectful, it's straight up power tripping. Also masonry and the feds.
Damn. Pretty bad for mutts.

But he isn't the ecumenical patriarch, right ? What about him specifically ?
 
Nihilma said:
Btw finished this, and beyond the stance on social issues which is already a big problem, the biggest problem to me seems to be his views and actions towards other bishops and the ecumenical patriarch. It's beyond disrespectful, it's straight up power tripping. Also masonry and the feds.
Damn. Pretty bad for mutts.

But he isn't the ecumenical patriarch, right ? What about him specifically ?
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The ecumenical patriarch is in very friendly terms with this guy. He doesn't go as far as he does but he would if he could, he also endorses ecumenism. Also, rumor has it that our next ecumenical patriarch might be the guy you are seeing in the video... So yeah, Greek Church is straight up on its way to take itself out of Orthodoxy if it goes on like this.
 
Aedra said:
The ecumenical patriarch is in very friendly terms with this guy. He doesn't go as far as he does but he would if he could, he also endorses ecumenism. Also, rumor has it that our next ecumenical patriarch might be the guy you are seeing in the video... So yeah, Greek Church is straight up on its way to take itself out of Orthodoxy if it goes on like this.
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The good thing however, is the fact that this doesn't mean much due to how hierarchy works within Orthodoxy. In Catholicism you have the pope, if he's corrupt he can do anything and pull the entire church in any direction he wants. But Orthodoxy is too decentralized to fall prey to something like that. The Greeks choosing to do this does not affect the vast majority of Orthodox believers who are under the Patriarchate of Moscow. Since Patriarchate of Alexandria (which has the whole of Africa as its canonical territory) sided with the Ecumenical Patriarchate on this, Africa as territory for missionary work is now free game for the Russians, who are offering the African Orthodox believers the choice to change sides and become Russian Orthodox. Everything will be fine.
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Acting Patriarchal Exarch of Africa: Even more priests wish to join the Russian Orthodox Church

The Patriarchal Exarchate of Africa began 2024 with massive visit of clergymen of the Russian Orthodox Church to various countries on the African continent. In some of them, services for Russian-speaking believers were celebrated for the first time on the feasts of the Nativity of Christ, the...
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Aedra said:
The good thing however, is the fact that this doesn't mean much due to how hierarchy works within Orthodoxy. In Catholicism you have the pope, if he's corrupt he can do anything and pull the entire church in any direction he wants. But Orthodoxy is too decentralized to fall prey to something like that. The Greeks choosing to do this does not affect the vast majority of Orthodox believers who are under the Patriarchate of Moscow. Since Patriarchate of Alexandria (which has the whole of Africa as its canonical territory) sided with the Ecumenical Patriarchate on this, Africa as territory for missionary work is now free game for the Russians, who are offering the African Orthodox believers the choice to change sides and become Russian Orthodox. Everything will be fine.
mospat.ru

Acting Patriarchal Exarch of Africa: Even more priests wish to join the Russian Orthodox Church

The Patriarchal Exarchate of Africa began 2024 with massive visit of clergymen of the Russian Orthodox Church to various countries on the African continent. In some of them, services for Russian-speaking believers were celebrated for the first time on the feasts of the Nativity of Christ, the...
mospat.ru mospat.ru
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yeah, virtually every canonical orthodox church is siding with moscow besides alexandria and i think the oca
 
encrusting_acro said:
Either ones (I didn't know there was a separate Tigrayan one; I thought they subscribed to the Ethiopian church), but probably Ethiopian Tewahedo.
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The Tigrayan church broke off from the Ethiopian church on May 7th, 2021 so many people aren’t familiar with it.
 
What's your guys' opinion on the Assyrian Church of the East and other non-Chalcedonian churches?
 
Aedra said:
You're fine. No one's perfect. Plus I'm not the judge of anyone. I simply read the church fathers/ecumenical councils/bible/saints and repeat what they say. I will also say I have issues with being far too critical. No matter how right our position might be, we are still commanded to do whatever we do with love. I'm really desensitized to everything so this whole compassion part has always been difficult for me. I'm also overly legalistic perhaps when Orthodoxy isn't supposed to be like that. At least it did dawn on me though.
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Don’t be a fanatical, super correct, cold, legalistic Christian

The letter of the law can be deadly – St Paisios of Mt Athos I had asked someone once: « What do you believe you are? Christ’s warrior or temptation’s warrior? Did you know that temptation al…
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Basically don't beat yourself up over my comments. I'm too critical of everyone and it can get overly harsh.
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That's a lot of words to say you deepthroat pharisees after lifting up their gold fringed dresses...
 
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