Serious General christian thread

[baqqrih]

Since there was a big discussion in this thread that I missed since I was at school doing a standardized test, I'd like to add my own thoughts. Jews are an interesting subject. In my beliefs, Jews, as an ethnic people, are not evil by blood, since we can, of course, find that folk like the "Messianic Jews" are capable of finding salvation through an acknowledgement of their own sin and imperfection, and through their belief that Christ is the savior, the Messiah, and is God, just as all other Christians can. It isn't any different with them, and their blood doesn't play a particular part in the matter of salvation (genes, especially Jew genes, can certainly play a part in other situations, but nothing eschatological. Galatians itself identifies that salvation is open for all peoples, but sadly the verse that speaks on that has in recent years been hijacked with false, dishonest meanings by leftist anti-racist activists, including B.L.M). Judaism, however, is evil, and there isn't anything wrong with hating evil as long as you contrast it with hating the victims of evil, who have been possessed and led astray because of it. This ranges throughout many examples; hate the homosexuality, but don't hate the homosexuals, hate the false beliefs of a theology/religion, but not their adherents, hate Judaism, but not its followers, so on and so forth. Love every person, rebuke their sins. Some groups of people statistically commit sins more than others, and we know science (not scientism like we have today with the monstrosities that come from today's laboratories, but science in the traditional sense) doesn't deny scripture. You just have to rebuke more sins since more sins come from certain groups of people, yet you must still maintain your compassion.
This does not at all mean you are to prioritize these people in any such way over people who you actively love so dearly. If interests conflict; say, if a disbelieving Jew and a disbelieving White are both hanging off of a cliff, and both of their grips are slipping, and the Jew clamps his nose down onto the ledge for additional leverage, but even that attempt slips, and you can only save one, you should save the White, quite simply, but with remorse still felt for Mr. Cohen. If unfortunate conflicts occur, you prioritize your blood over any other, just as a parent would save their offspring over a random child. I myself follow a hierarchy of love that extends from God, down to my close family and the household of the faith (other Christians), down to my extended family (my nation of people, European-Americans, many of whom happen to also be of the household of the faith; Christians), down to my further extended family (the White race), down to my friends and then any other folk. This is scriptural, it mainly comes from Luke (that verse when Jesus talks about hating one's own family to love God; this isn't how we think of hate, He's talking about having God be the one we overwhelmingly love with all of our hearts to the point that the hate is extremely far above the love for our family), Galatians (Galatians 6), and one of my favorite, littler texts of scripture, First Epistle to Timothy (Timothy 5).
But, back to the Jews. I believe Jewish privilege and Jewish supremacy do exist, and they're serious issues for our countries. David Duke has an entire book dedicated to the topic, and it's one of the best pieces of literature pertaining to the modern day that I've ever read. What we need to understand, particularly as enlightened White Americans, is that an elite cabal of one ethnoreligious group (not the whole of the group) have seized the world economy through the establishment of central banks in all lands; their victims are the whole of the Earth, every nation. Under this economic control, they then progressively bought their way into the media, and after parasitically infecting this part of society, these elites then gained the most powerful sway over the entire Earth's affairs from their infiltration of our own governments. This group, the 1%, the elite cabal, these rich, Zionist Jews, the Synagogue of Satan, as Billy Graham once interpreted the Book of Revelation as describing (I don't entirely agree with Graham's views on Hitler that are briefly brought up in this clip, since I'm rather sure Mr. Graham at this time still believed the official Holocaust narrative happened. That's a conversation for a different day), are the main pusher of sin in these desperate times on this sin-ridden Earth. They do everything in their ability in order to get all the rest of humanity to tear each other to shreds for the sake of their own zealous commitment to the most radical extremes of the Jewish, Christ-denying heresy. They're an embodiment of the most evil, vile, treacherous folk one could even conjure in the thoughts of the mind, for this cabal is using so many Satanic tactics just to harm the rest of the world, but do remember that they do not represent the unenlightened, ethnic Jews. In fact, there are plenty of Jews who are just as enlightened as us. Look at men like the talented Gilad Atzmon, or the rather unique Israel Shamir. Both are interesting folk who advocate against their people's international supremacy.
The cabal is the enemy, as is Judaism, and so we must not inflict hatred among the common people infected with this parasite of a heresy. We must only advocate against the heresy itself, destroying the evil that infects these people, so that their minds may be opened to Christ, and through that advocation, of donating the truth to our neighbors, our friends, and all who we're surrounded with, by giving them these truths (which can be found in the word of God), nationalism among all nations will grow to prosper on this Earth.

 

[Nihilma]

Since there was a big discussion in this thread that I missed since I was at school doing a standardized test, I'd like to add my own thoughts. Jews are an interesting subject. In my beliefs, Jews, as an ethnic people, are not evil by blood, since we can, of course, find that folk like the "Messianic Jews" are capable of finding salvation through an acknowledgement of their own sin and imperfection, and through their belief that Christ is the savior, the Messiah, and is God, just as all other Christians can. It isn't any different with them, and their blood doesn't play a particular part in the matter of salvation (genes, especially Jew genes, can certainly play a part in other situations, but nothing eschatological. Galatians itself identifies that salvation is open for all peoples, but sadly the verse that speaks on that has in recent years been hijacked with false, dishonest meanings by leftist anti-racist activists, including B.L.M). Judaism, however, is evil, and there isn't anything wrong with hating evil as long as you contrast it with hating the victims of evil, who have been possessed and led astray because of it. This ranges throughout many examples; hate the homosexuality, but don't hate the homosexuals, hate the false beliefs of a theology/religion, but not their adherents, hate Judaism, but not its followers, so on and so forth. Love every person, rebuke their sins. Some groups of people statistically commit sins more than others, and we know science (not scientism like we have today with the monstrosities that come from today's laboratories, but science in the traditional sense) doesn't deny scripture. You just have to rebuke more sins since more sins come from certain groups of people, yet you must still maintain your compassion.
This does not at all mean you are to prioritize these people in any such way over people who you actively love so dearly. If interests conflict; say, if a disbelieving Jew and a disbelieving White are both hanging off of a cliff, and both of their grips are slipping, and the Jew clamps his nose down onto the ledge for additional leverage, but even that attempt slips, and you can only save one, you should save the White, quite simply, but with remorse still felt for Mr. Cohen. If unfortunate conflicts occur, you prioritize your blood over any other, just as a parent would save their offspring over a random child. I myself follow a hierarchy of love that extends from God, down to my close family and the household of the faith (other Christians), down to my extended family (my nation of people, European-Americans, many of whom happen to also be of the household of the faith; Christians), down to my further extended family (the White race), down to my friends and then any other folk. This is scriptural, it mainly comes from Luke (that verse when Jesus talks about hating one's own family to love God; this isn't how we think of hate, He's talking about having God be the one we overwhelmingly love with all of our hearts to the point that the hate is extremely far above the love for our family), Galatians (Galatians 6), and one of my favorite, littler texts of scripture, First Epistle to Timothy (Timothy 5).
But, back to the Jews. I believe Jewish privilege and Jewish supremacy do exist, and they're serious issues for our countries. David Duke has an entire book dedicated to the topic, and it's one of the best pieces of literature pertaining to the modern day that I've ever read. What we need to understand, particularly as enlightened White Americans, is that an elite cabal of one ethnoreligious group (not the whole of the group) have seized the world economy through the establishment of central banks in all lands; their victims are the whole of the Earth, every nation. Under this economic control, they then progressively bought their way into the media, and after parasitically infecting this part of society, these elites then gained the most powerful sway over the entire Earth's affairs from their infiltration of our own governments. This group, the 1%, the elite cabal, these rich, Zionist Jews, the Synagogue of Satan, as Billy Graham once interpreted the Book of Revelation as describing (I don't entirely agree with Graham's views on Hitler that are briefly brought up in this clip, since I'm rather sure Mr. Graham at this time still believed the official Holocaust narrative happened. That's a conversation for a different day), are the main pusher of sin in these desperate times on this sin-ridden Earth. They do everything in their ability in order to get all the rest of humanity to tear each other to shreds for the sake of their own zealous commitment to the most radical extremes of the Jewish, Christ-denying heresy. They're an embodiment of the most evil, vile, treacherous folk one could even conjure in the thoughts of the mind, for this cabal is using so many Satanic tactics just to harm the rest of the world, but do remember that they do not represent the unenlightened, ethnic Jews. In fact, there are plenty of Jews who are just as enlightened as us. Look at men like the talented Gilad Atzmon, or the rather unique Israel Shamir. Both are interesting folk who advocate against their people's international supremacy.
The cabal is the enemy, as is Judaism, and so we must not inflict hatred among the common people infected with this parasite of a heresy. We must only advocate against the heresy itself, destroying the evil that infects these people, so that their minds may be opened to Christ, and through that advocation, of donating the truth to our neighbors, our friends, and all who we're surrounded with, by giving them these truths (which can be found in the word of God), nationalism among all nations will grow to prosper on this Earth.

A way more balanced and reasonable take. Though, apart from a few passages from the talmud that are plainly anto-christian, I do not see how judaism as a religion is necessarily more evil than any other religion out there, establishing a hierarchy of evil outside the Church is a complicated and dangerous task, because if you get it wrong, it may have consequential implications on your relations with people of these faiths.

Also, on the case were the last security measure of the Jew fails and the hook of his nose detaches from the cliff, I've always thought about this and never actually fell on a correct conclusion.
If I had to chose between the life of a believer and a non-believer, the question of the afterlife pops up. A christian dying is not a sad state of affair for the christian or the Church, it is for the world. He joins a better place, and as Paul puts it in Philippians 1:2, "For to me to live is Christ, and to die is gain.".

In christian has nothing to lose and everything to gain from dying, quote on quote, as it is the end of tribulation and the beginning of theosis.
The non believer, on the other hand, has everything to lose. Hell.
And so on the off chance that the non believer may still turn his life around and chose Christ, I wonder if it wouldn't be more correct to chose the non believer.

Also, I don't really understand this top down thing of Love that still passes through race and shit.
I mean idk but like beyond the Church and my own personnal circle of closed ones, I see everyone as more or less the same, especially if God sees everyone the same way, idk why I should see people differently based on race and not idk, nationality or political position or sex or what not, and if I start making categories like that I'd feel like putting myself in the place of God.
I am not to decide who lives and who dies, who deserves more love than who.

On the Jew thing though, I feel like this vision of them is a very obsessed burger vision of things. Here in france, the 1% top of the ladder is not comprised of Jews, so I don't really give a shit about them, and I guess this varies from country to country too. So pinpointing "some of them" as a proof that judaism is an evil elite thing to me is absurd. Some individuals from this group sure are there, but is it BECAUSE they are jews ? And is their evil being done BECAUSE of their judaism ? Seems to me to be based off of very little, though again I'm not a mutt so I wouldn't know. I mean there's been a shit ton of 1% everywhere on the world, in different context, and not all were Jews, statistically Jews were mostly present as the 1% of america and Europe, and in Europe it nowadays depends a lot on where you are.
But the 1% of China, of deeply corrupted frican countries like Gabon, of Russia, of India, they don't seem to be necessarily of jewish roots, yet commit the same degree of evil. Or sometimes even worse, in the case of commies.

What do you think ?

 

[baqqrih]

A way more balanced and reasonable take. Though, apart from a few passages from the talmud that are plainly anto-christian, I do not see how judaism as a religion is necessarily more evil than any other religion out there, establishing a hierarchy of evil outside the Church is a complicated and dangerous task, because if you get it wrong, it may have consequential implications on your relations with people of these faiths.

Also, on the case were the last security measure of the Jew fails and the hook of his nose detaches from the cliff, I've always thought about this and never actually fell on a correct conclusion.
If I had to chose between the life of a believer and a non-believer, the question of the afterlife pops up. A christian dying is not a sad state of affair for the christian or the Church, it is for the world. He joins a better place, and as Paul puts it in Philippians 1:2, "For to me to live is Christ, and to die is gain.".

In christian has nothing to lose and everything to gain from dying, quote on quote, as it is the end of tribulation and the beginning of theosis.
The non believer, on the other hand, has everything to lose. Hell.
And so on the off chance that the non believer may still turn his life around and chose Christ, I wonder if it wouldn't be more correct to chose the non believer.

Also, I don't really understand this top down thing of Love that still passes through race and shit.
I mean idk but like beyond the Church and my own personnal circle of closed ones, I see everyone as more or less the same, especially if God sees everyone the same way, idk why I should see people differently based on race and not idk, nationality or political position or sex or what not, and if I start making categories like that I'd feel like putting myself in the place of God.
I am not to decide who lives and who dies, who deserves more love than who.

On the Jew thing though, I feel like this vision of them is a very obsessed burger vision of things. Here in france, the 1% top of the ladder is not comprised of Jews, so I don't really give a shit about them, and I guess this varies from country to country too. So pinpointing "some of them" as a proof that judaism is an evil elite thing to me is absurd. Some individuals from this group sure are there, but is it BECAUSE they are jews ? And is their evil being done BECAUSE of their judaism ? Seems to me to be based off of very little, though again I'm not a mutt so I wouldn't know. I mean there's been a shit ton of 1% everywhere on the world, in different context, and not all were Jews, statistically Jews were mostly present as the 1% of america and Europe, and in Europe it nowadays depends a lot on where you are.
But the 1% of China, of deeply corrupted frican countries like Gabon, of Russia, of India, they don't seem to be necessarily of jewish roots, yet commit the same degree of evil. Or sometimes even worse, in the case of commies.

What do you think ?

You are right about the danger of establishing that hierarchy of evil. I more-so have created these perspectives of evil on my own personal experience and personal research regarding the political affairs of the U.S, and perhaps that isn't the best approach. What just seems weird and conspicuous to me is that these people who I'm referring to have their noses poked everywhere. Our immigration crisis? The Hebrew Immigration Aid Society, and all of these ethnically-Jewish politicians as our local politicians, senators, or presidential staff, all blabbering about how we're a nation of immigrants (without specifying where those original immigrants came from, or mentioning our past practice of immigration quotas), how diversity enriches the country even in areas where your average leftist would say it certainly doesn't, all sorts of untruthful shit that only strengthens the MILLIONS of people from all across the world who are coming in here in order to be harmed by the unjust, terrible systems of this country. They're luring them in. It's an act of evil to put them here and encourage them to let their own country, and their own people, rot. How about the economy, the central banking I mentioned? Jews! Look at the history of the Federal Reserve, our Central Bank, its leaders. So many of them are Jews. I have yet to see an Oriental chairman to it, a Black, an Indian, but we've seen a disproportionate amount of Jews within its staff and as its leaders. Social issues, like those who constantly bicker and censor nationalist thought? It's them, the same people, the same sort of Zionists. Look at the ADL, look at the SPLC, there's an overwhelming amount of them in there compared to any other group. I'm sure you've already seen the usual /pol/ infographics, so I'm not going to continue writing about them, since those sorts of "THEY'RE EVERYWHERE!" have the ability eventually also go off the rails in comparison to focusing solely on the elite, who actually hold power and an ability for change. What I'm saying is that, especially in America, Jews hold severe levels of power, and a great majority of that power is being directed towards harming the White population, and nationalist political thought, and then to a lesser extent all other people in the country. It may not be the same in other countries, but there's something going on here, and that has swayed my view towards there being a clear suspicion towards the Jews in power here in the states. I thank you for acknowledging the difference between us burgers and other countries, doe, since clearly there's a level of bias in my thinking just from how much they control things here.
As for the hierarchy of love, you're also sensibly deciphering these sorts of situations from how I worded them, and that's one thing I like about you, your sensibilities and your knowledge of scripture. It isn't meant to be as much of a pyramid of "love" as it is a pyramid of "priority in the situation that your love for two groups conflicts", a mindset helpful in political thinking when regarding the immigration crisis I wrote on earlier, or living in a multicultural society. My personal, political opinion is that we need to live in racially separate nation-states because there is clear scientific and historic proof for prosperity in homogeneous countries (thus leading to happier people), and those sorts of opinions then inspire me to find a reasonable fusion between faith and political leanings to further support what I think, and see what God must think about it. So, that sort of thinking, of prioritizing your own people over others when necessary, stems from that view and from the situation I believe America increasingly finds itself in, a cruel state of different groups who hate each other. Just look at the voting; normal people will always say that there's an increasing polarization, a notable increased in hatred, between the two political parties and their supporters, but who votes for who? Well, it's racial; a large proportion of Democratic Party voters are non-White, and the opposite is true for the Republican Party's voters, the majority of whom are Whites. But back to the point, we must still love our neighbors who are not of our same race, of course, and in doing so, we must view them, if they're in our lands, as guests, who we must respect. They aren't Americans in the sense of the American identity, and the only thing that proves them to be citizens is the writing on paper. So, as Christians, we must love them and ultimately seek the most peaceful solutions that are within our power to achieve. While we do that, and this is completely in my own interpretation of scripture, we must put priority to our own people whenever every group is facing a threat like what we're seeing in America, as Paul describes in his epistle to Timothy, as, if we don't care for our own, we're worse than unbelievers, he writes. The verse itself, out of my Bible, goes
>and if any one for his own -- and especially for those of the household -- doth not provide, the faith he hath denied, and than an unbeliever he is worse.
Paul outlines that we need to care for our household first (our family), and then for our "own", which I interpret as our nation of people, which is then tied to race, since the American nation (nation used in its traditional definition) is European, just as the Kenyan nation is African or the Korean nation is East Asian. That's just how I see it. Sorry if I rambled too much, but that's the fundamental idea I'm trying to convey here.

 

[Nihilma]

You are right about the danger of establishing that hierarchy of evil. I more-so have created these perspectives of evil on my own personal experience and personal research regarding the political affairs of the U.S, and perhaps that isn't the best approach. What just seems weird and conspicuous to me is that these people who I'm referring to have their noses poked everywhere. Our immigration crisis? The Hebrew Immigration Aid Society, and all of these ethnically-Jewish politicians as our local politicians, senators, or presidential staff, all blabbering about how we're a nation of immigrants (without specifying where those original immigrants came from, or mentioning our past practice of immigration quotas), how diversity enriches the country even in areas where your average leftist would say it certainly doesn't, all sorts of untruthful shit that only strengthens the MILLIONS of people from all across the world who are coming in here in order to be harmed by the unjust, terrible systems of this country. They're luring them in. It's an act of evil to put them here and encourage them to let their own country, and their own people, rot. How about the economy, the central banking I mentioned? Jews! Look at the history of the Federal Reserve, our Central Bank, its leaders. So many of them are Jews. I have yet to see an Oriental chairman to it, a Black, an Indian, but we've seen a disproportionate amount of Jews within its staff and as its leaders. Social issues, like those who constantly bicker and censor nationalist thought? It's them, the same people, the same sort of Zionists. Look at the ADL, look at the SPLC, there's an overwhelming amount of them in there compared to any other group. I'm sure you've already seen the usual /pol/ infographics, so I'm not going to continue writing about them, since those sorts of "THEY'RE EVERYWHERE!" have the ability eventually also go off the rails in comparison to focusing solely on the elite, who actually hold power and an ability for change. What I'm saying is that, especially in America, Jews hold severe levels of power, and a great majority of that power is being directed towards harming the White population, and nationalist political thought, and then to a lesser extent all other people in the country. It may not be the same in other countries, but there's something going on here, and that has swayed my view towards there being a clear suspicion towards the Jews in power here in the states. I thank you for acknowledging the difference between us burgers and other countries, doe, since clearly there's a level of bias in my thinking just from how much they control things here.
As for the hierarchy of love, you're also sensibly deciphering these sorts of situations from how I worded them, and that's one thing I like about you, your sensibilities and your knowledge of scripture. It isn't meant to be as much of a pyramid of "love" as it is a pyramid of "priority in the situation that your love for two groups conflicts", a mindset helpful in political thinking when regarding the immigration crisis I wrote on earlier, or living in a multicultural society. My personal, political opinion is that we need to live in racially separate nation-states because there is clear scientific and historic proof for prosperity in homogeneous countries (thus leading to happier people), and those sorts of opinions then inspire me to find a reasonable fusion between faith and political leanings to further support what I think, and see what God must think about it. So, that sort of thinking, of prioritizing your own people over others when necessary, stems from that view and from the situation I believe America increasingly finds itself in, a cruel state of different groups who hate each other. Just look at the voting; normal people will always say that there's an increasing polarization, a notable increased in hatred, between the two political parties and their supporters, but who votes for who? Well, it's racial; a large proportion of Democratic Party voters are non-White, and the opposite is true for the Republican Party's voters, the majority of whom are Whites. But back to the point, we must still love our neighbors who are not of our same race, of course, and in doing so, we must view them, if they're in our lands, as guests, who we must respect. They aren't Americans in the sense of the American identity, and the only thing that proves them to be citizens is the writing on paper. So, as Christians, we must love them and ultimately seek the most peaceful solutions that are within our power to achieve. While we do that, and this is completely in my own interpretation of scripture, we must put priority to our own people whenever every group is facing a threat like what we're seeing in America, as Paul describes in his epistle to Timothy, as, if we don't care for our own, we're worse than unbelievers, he writes. The verse itself, out of my Bible, goes
>and if any one for his own -- and especially for those of the household -- doth not provide, the faith he hath denied, and than an unbeliever he is worse.
Paul outlines that we need to care for our household first (our family), and then for our "own", which I interpret as our nation of people, which is then tied to race, since the American nation (nation used in its traditional definition) is European, just as the Kenyan nation is African or the Korean nation is East Asian. That's just how I see it. Sorry if I rambled too much, but that's the fundamental idea I'm trying to convey here.

Alright thank you for taking your time and answering, this is the first long discussion I've had on here which hasn't danced on the edge that separates heated conversation from derailment and insults geg. I really appreciate that.

Regarding the state of American affairs, I have indeed heard a lot of that. I haven't done my own research but I believe you, honestly. As to why that is, I have no idea. Maybe just like the mormons in the FBI, there is some incentive within the 1% to push forward people of your own group into positions of power, which wouldn't be surprising and has literally always been a thing everywhere. As to why those specific jews are hyper liberal, I have no clue. Because as said not all Jews are liberals. In France, the most right wing candidate for presidency is called Eric Zemmour, and he is a berber Jew. He not only wants to close the doors to immigrations but actually wants to send back a goup proportions of those who are already here. As you can imagine he is very dividing.

But what you're saying is interesting, and I don't wanna deny what is seemingly very evident. I don't really know what to make of it honestly.

On the race stuff, I think I get what you're saying, even if once again I think our cultural backgrounds make us take different stances. Here in France, there hasn't been a talk of race in forever, and we rather talk abojt ethnicity or nationality. A french person isn't a white person, a french person is a person whi has the french nationality, recognizes other french people as his brothers and sisters, and wants the best for the country. We are one of the last countries to have quote on quote "colonies", as the french government has absorbed into it's territories these colonies as legitimate french soil. Anyone who is there is french.
And thus take a look at the island of "La réunion" for example, which is literally full of different races and one of the most diverse places in the world. Hindus, christians and muslims have lived there together for centuries, and that in relative peace. There, racial divide doesn't really show in election results, nor in crime rate, as it is a very peaceful region.
And these people certainly see each other as different because of their religion or race, but it is very engraved in french culture to see each other first and foremost as french people, and thus as brethren.

I don't know if you can extract a definitive statement about the world, race and affiliation from this, but my tendency is to see what is happening in America with race as a result of centuries of divide that has never healed, and that we nowadays even worsen willingly. It's a bit of a sad state of affair because I am sure something else is possible, and I am sure that race and genes don't have a say in your political choices, but rather your environment has. Even in the US it isn't like all blacks vote left for example.
I personally like a political commentator on youtube a lot, he's called officer tatum. He and many others prove that race isn't something that naturally bring you to see the world a certain way, but I believe that the american left and the american media MADE IT so, in order to justify their stancd on white people. So I really believe something different, a peace and even kinship is possible between different races.

But I am sure that is instead going to boil into a civil war there at some point. As said, I blame the media for it, and maybe it links to the first point in that the media is owned by this 1% of overwhelmingly ultraliberal Jews. But also because the media, even right wing, has a tendency to accuse the other party rather than seek recobciliation, and that is nowadays the norm in political debate. Rather than searching to approach the other position into an agreement, politics nowadays search to further the divide, and ofc this only leads to more tensions.

In conclusion, I do agree with you on your scriptural ground, about providing for your own, but ig my own cultural background tells me that my own are not my race, but my nation's people and those who want the best for it.

Also yet again, thank you a lot for this convo, for once I am actually learning something geg

 

[JC Denton]

The term "nazi" is a leftist slur created by judeo-bolsheviks in order to insult us.

Trvke Hitler hated being called a nazi and definitely didn't name his party that

 

[Aedra]

I'll settle this little "muh nazi christianity" vs "muh kikes did no wrong type christianity" debate.

I base myself on scriptural grounds.
Martin Luther is not a saint, he can do mistakes.
If you call yourself a christian, you should focus on the Bible and the patristic tradition.
The Bible is the word of God, it has authority over anything else, and I think I provided good scriptural evidence that the Bible doesn't consider Jews to be evil, nor that it considers any race to be inferior or superior, and Jesus is the messiah that came to save both the Jew and the Gentille. That Jews are the devil is not scriptural, nor found in tradition.

Also, calling the whole of Judaism and all Jews as promoters of degeneracy is an absurdity when you understand modern judaism.
Orthodox Jews for example, while being the most hostile towards christians usually, despise degeneracy as much as christians and muslims do, because they are very adamant on respecting the written law of Leviticus.
Conservative Jews the likes of Ben Shapiro, while being less religious than the Orthodox cast, are way friendlier to christians, while still mostly despising degeneracy, and then you have reform Jews who mostly don't even believe in God anymore and are overwhelmingly leftists. These people are also usually indistinguishable from your average white atheist because they're most likely Ashkenazis with european roots.

But these people are not more evil than your average non-jewish white atheist or pagan.
There's a youtube channel I like called "So be it", which is run by messianic jews in Israel (christian converts from judaism), who preach the gospel to Jews in Israel, and they aren't well received everywhere, as you can imagine.

Also, small tangeant, but not all jews are zionists, and in the land of obsessed burgers, there's quite a number of orthodox Jews who completely oppose the existence of Israel, because they interpret OT prophecies in a way that makes them believe Israel should not come back yet.
The error of Hitler is to consider Jews as a hivemind with a single intent and motivation. They are not.
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This guy is a kike loving heretic who intentionally ignores the fact that Judaism officially considers any gentile to be subhuman, calls Mary, the mother of God, a whore. Says Jesus will be boiling in shit for eternity and approves raping three year old children.

jews are evil, please read "On the jews and their lies" by Martin Luther and watch Europa the Last Battle and also read Mein Kamp.

The truth is that they are an evil race and they were the ones that killed Jesus Christ, the jew is the devil in human form.

One can see how evil the jews are just by looking at their actions and what they promote.

The jews are behind marxism, the LGBTQ movement, the CIA and US zog governments and all other degenerate anti-White movements.

They are also responsible for zionism and for the death of millions of Palestinians, including women and children

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This guy is a nazi heretic. His points are all correct but his response to these kike evils (aka positive christianity) is ethnophyletism heresy. Basically same shit Jews do but for his precious aryan race.

Since there was a big discussion in this thread that I missed since I was at school doing a standardized test, I'd like to add my own thoughts. Jews are an interesting subject. In my beliefs, Jews, as an ethnic people, are not evil by blood, since we can, of course, find that folk like the "Messianic Jews" are capable of finding salvation through an acknowledgement of their own sin and imperfection, and through their belief that Christ is the savior, the Messiah, and is God, just as all other Christians can. It isn't any different with them, and their blood doesn't play a particular part in the matter of salvation (genes, especially Jew genes, can certainly play a part in other situations, but nothing eschatological. Galatians itself identifies that salvation is open for all peoples, but sadly the verse that speaks on that has in recent years been hijacked with false, dishonest meanings by leftist anti-racist activists, including B.L.M). Judaism, however, is evil, and there isn't anything wrong with hating evil as long as you contrast it with hating the victims of evil, who have been possessed and led astray because of it. This ranges throughout many examples; hate the homosexuality, but don't hate the homosexuals, hate the false beliefs of a theology/religion, but not their adherents, hate Judaism, but not its followers, so on and so forth. Love every person, rebuke their sins. Some groups of people statistically commit sins more than others, and we know science (not scientism like we have today with the monstrosities that come from today's laboratories, but science in the traditional sense) doesn't deny scripture. You just have to rebuke more sins since more sins come from certain groups of people, yet you must still maintain your compassion.
This does not at all mean you are to prioritize these people in any such way over people who you actively love so dearly. If interests conflict; say, if a disbelieving Jew and a disbelieving White are both hanging off of a cliff, and both of their grips are slipping, and the Jew clamps his nose down onto the ledge for additional leverage, but even that attempt slips, and you can only save one, you should save the White, quite simply, but with remorse still felt for Mr. Cohen. If unfortunate conflicts occur, you prioritize your blood over any other, just as a parent would save their offspring over a random child. I myself follow a hierarchy of love that extends from God, down to my close family and the household of the faith (other Christians), down to my extended family (my nation of people, European-Americans, many of whom happen to also be of the household of the faith; Christians), down to my further extended family (the White race), down to my friends and then any other folk. This is scriptural, it mainly comes from Luke (that verse when Jesus talks about hating one's own family to love God; this isn't how we think of hate, He's talking about having God be the one we overwhelmingly love with all of our hearts to the point that the hate is extremely far above the love for our family), Galatians (Galatians 6), and one of my favorite, littler texts of scripture, First Epistle to Timothy (Timothy 5).
But, back to the Jews. I believe Jewish privilege and Jewish supremacy do exist, and they're serious issues for our countries. David Duke has an entire book dedicated to the topic, and it's one of the best pieces of literature pertaining to the modern day that I've ever read. What we need to understand, particularly as enlightened White Americans, is that an elite cabal of one ethnoreligious group (not the whole of the group) have seized the world economy through the establishment of central banks in all lands; their victims are the whole of the Earth, every nation. Under this economic control, they then progressively bought their way into the media, and after parasitically infecting this part of society, these elites then gained the most powerful sway over the entire Earth's affairs from their infiltration of our own governments. This group, the 1%, the elite cabal, these rich, Zionist Jews, the Synagogue of Satan, as Billy Graham once interpreted the Book of Revelation as describing (I don't entirely agree with Graham's views on Hitler that are briefly brought up in this clip, since I'm rather sure Mr. Graham at this time still believed the official Holocaust narrative happened. That's a conversation for a different day), are the main pusher of sin in these desperate times on this sin-ridden Earth. They do everything in their ability in order to get all the rest of humanity to tear each other to shreds for the sake of their own zealous commitment to the most radical extremes of the Jewish, Christ-denying heresy. They're an embodiment of the most evil, vile, treacherous folk one could even conjure in the thoughts of the mind, for this cabal is using so many Satanic tactics just to harm the rest of the world, but do remember that they do not represent the unenlightened, ethnic Jews. In fact, there are plenty of Jews who are just as enlightened as us. Look at men like the talented Gilad Atzmon, or the rather unique Israel Shamir. Both are interesting folk who advocate against their people's international supremacy.
The cabal is the enemy, as is Judaism, and so we must not inflict hatred among the common people infected with this parasite of a heresy. We must only advocate against the heresy itself, destroying the evil that infects these people, so that their minds may be opened to Christ, and through that advocation, of donating the truth to our neighbors, our friends, and all who we're surrounded with, by giving them these truths (which can be found in the word of God), nationalism among all nations will grow to prosper on this Earth.

And this man is a Christian. Even if I disagree on a few parts, he gets the main idea right.

 

[Nihilma]

I'll settle this little "muh nazi christianity" vs "muh kikes did no wrong type christianity" debate.

This guy is a kike loving heretic who intentionally ignores the fact that Judaism officially considers any gentile to be subhuman, calls Mary, the mother of God, a whore. Says Jesus will be boiling in shit for eternity and approves raping three year old children.
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This guy is a nazi heretic. His points are all correct but his response to these kike evils (aka positive christianity) is ethnophyletism heresy. Basically same shit Jews do but for his precious aryan race.

And this man is a Christian. Even if I disagree on a few parts, he gets the main idea right.
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The talmud is evil, agreed.

 

[Aedra]

The talmud is evil, agreed.

The Talmud is an essential part of Rabbinic Judaism, the two are not separate.

 

[Nihilma]

The Talmud is an essential part of Rabbinic Judaism, the two are not separate.

Ik, but not even all jews are rabbinic jews, even though the vast majority are.
And then, I believe that most modern jews don't even read shit, the ones you could blame in this regard are orthodox jews, but I doubt your average conservative jew knows about all this.
Let alone reform jews but they have a way bigger problem anyway.

I just don't call them intrinsically evil, as in like by nature.
They're as human as everyone else I believe, they're not a different specie

 

[Aedra]

Ik, but not even all jews are rabbinic jews, even though the vast majority are.
And then, I believe that most modern jews don't even read shit, the ones you could blame in this regard are orthodox jews, but I doubt your average conservative jew knows about alm this.
Let alone reform jews but they have a way bigger problem anyway.

The small hat tribe was also behind communism (Marx was a jew), the fall of the Russian monarchy, the murder of the Romanov Royal Family (Tsar Nicholas II is a saint in the Orthodox Church so you WILL respect him if you give a flying fuck about the dignity of your fellow Christian man.) And they are behind this current war in Ukraine considering Zelenskyy is a jew. It's almost as if you're defending my enemy, isn't it?

The only Jew I respect is the Jew who converts to Orthodox Christianity and gives up on his entire Judaic identity, everything else is bullshit. Including your precious Messianic Jews who are not Christians but Judaizing heretics.

 

[Nihilma]

The small hat tribe was also behind communism (Marx was a jew), the fall of the Russian monarchy, the murder of the Romanov Royal Family (Tsar Nicholas II is a saint in the Orthodox Church so you WILL respect him if you give a flying fuck about the dignity of your fellow Christian man.) And they are behind this current war in Ukraine considering Zelenskyy is a jew. It's almost as if you're defending my enemy, isn't it?

The only Jew I respect is the Jew who converts to Orthodox Christianity and gives up on his entire Judaic identity, everything else is bullshit. Including your precious Messianic Jews who are not Christians but Judaizing heretics.

Yeah there's been a lot of bad Jews, but I'll give you another example from my country. Currently, the only candidate for presidency who wants to get immigrants out of the country, and wants to preserve the catholic culture of france intact and present is Eric Zemmour, a berber jew from Algeria.

As said, I am not saying NO jew is evil, just that they are not genetically coded to be evil. But that the talmudic and rabbinic culture and tradition is evil.

 

[AshkeNazi]

Ik, but not even all jews are rabbinic jews, even though the vast majority are.
And then, I believe that most modern jews don't even read shit, the ones you could blame in this regard are orthodox jews, but I doubt your average conservative jew knows about all this.
Let alone reform jews but they have a way bigger problem anyway.

I just don't call them intrinsically evil, as in like by nature.
They're as human as everyone else I believe, they're not a different specie

the average "reform jew" is effectively an atheist with a yarmulke

 

[Nihilma]

the average "reform jew" is effectively an atheist with a yarmulke

I have yet to see a single non marxist reform jew

 

[Aedra]

I just don't call them intrinsically evil, as in like by nature.
They're as human as everyone else I believe, they're not a different specie

Yeah I don't disagree with that.

 

[Aedra]

I remember this one Jewish guy who was an Orthodox Priest in ROCOR. He spewed so many takes that are "muh-anti semitic" that kiketube took his channel down several times. Plus he's literally in ADL's database. Kek.

Brother Nathanael

extremismterms.adl.org

His channel was actually growing extremely fast last time he attempted to make videos, but unfortunately the kikes who run youtube couldn't keep themselves from being selfish little fucks.

 

[baqqrih]

I remember this one Jewish guy who was an Orthodox Priest in ROCOR. He spewed so many takes that are "muh-anti semitic" that kiketube took his channel down several times. Plus he's literally in ADL's database. Kek.

Brother Nathanael

extremismterms.adl.org

His channel was actually growing extremely fast last time he attempted to make videos, but unfortunately the kikes who run youtube couldn't keep themselves from being selfish little fucks.

Yeah, I remember Brother Nathanael, his Bible With Brother channel got taken down. He had to move to his own site since then, I think it's called RealJewNews.

 

[Nihilma]

I remember this one Jewish guy who was an Orthodox Priest in ROCOR. He spewed so many takes that are "muh-anti semitic" that kiketube took his channel down several times. Plus he's literally in ADL's database. Kek.

Brother Nathanael

extremismterms.adl.org

His channel was actually growing extremely fast last time he attempted to make videos, but unfortunately the kikes who run youtube couldn't keep themselves from being selfish little fucks.

Oh I watched a few of his videos I think
Yeah I definitely remember him, wondered what happened to him, never bothered checking

 

[BLACKHAWK]

I'd be sinning getting a big ass cross

oy vey pagan has bugz in his programming code.

 

[Aedra]

@X Immigrant we can continue our conversation here instead of derailing the other thread, if you want.

 

[X Immigrant]

Just think of it this way, would it be more beneficial to save a homosexual from his own desires and in the process ensure his salvation, or let him do as he will?

I will do everything I can to convince him to stop, but there shouldn't be a law made against it. I already told you how it affects normal people as well.

Society is worldly, temporary. But I'm referring to the eternal here. That matters more than either of us could even comprehend. I am not letting anyone just "live in sin" because it "doesn't hurt society".

I am not 'letting anyone' either, at least not letting them to the degree I can without committing a crime.

The eternal takes priority over any worldly matters.

I agree, but we don't have a perfect monarch or government that can represent us best, besides God himself. For now, the best thing, and I've learned this from experience, is to encourage and be tough when someone is doing something detrimental to themselves.

I don't necessarily disagree. I am merely saying the west has become such an evil entity that it's very difficult to look upon them as "fellow Christians" at this point. Never forget 1204. The truth of the matter is that the west is founded on false theology. I'm sure you would not dispute that. So I can't see what perks the west has. It's literally all I care about. I don't care about anyone's race, I only care if they're Orthodox or not. If they are, then they are my brother, if they aren't, then it's my duty to make them my brother eventually by converting them as you said too. But that's extremely difficult with most westerners when they embrace everything that is anti-orthodox.

I don't think we understand each other. I don't like the term Westoid because it refers to the person as an individual instead of the religion they believe in. Refer to them as 'Protfags' and 'Catholicucks' instead.

The current government is actually pretty neutral towards Russia, and the Georgian Church is generally seen as the most pro-russian institution in the country. That's why the EU cucks are increasing pressure so much, Georgia isn't that easy to crack.. As for the people, yes I have no issue with them.

Well, r/TodayIlearned! I don't have a lot of Georgian friends(think Belarus, Ukraine and Central Asia) and all Georgians I've met on the internet hate Russia with a passion.