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Ye shall not make any cuttings in your flesh for the dead, nor print or tattoo any marks upon you.

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The verse before this one :

"Ye shall not round the corners of your heads, neither shalt thou mar the corners of thy beard."

Personally, I always understood this commandment as being part of the ceremonial law of Israel that was supposed to distinguish Israel from pagan nations, who did those acts as part of rituals.

When it comes to the body, my way of thinking is : "Whatever you do to your body, remember that it is the temple of God and you should honour it and rake care of it".

I don't think the Copts are sinful by having on their arms a tattoo meant as a symbol to recognize one another and to mark faith.

Leviticus has a lot of stuff that doesn't apply anymore since Jesus accomplished all of it, or that isn't understood by direct plain reading of the text, like everything related to physical impurities, leprosy et cetera...
And in this case, since it talks about "marking for the dead", I assume this has to be talking about some tattoos with spiritual pagan meaning.

I don't have a tattoo and don't plan on getting one, but I don't think I'd be sinning getting a big ass cross on my back if I ever wanted to, tbh
 
Nihilma said:
The verse before this one :

"Ye shall not round the corners of your heads, neither shalt thou mar the corners of thy beard."

Personally, I always understood this commandment as being part of the ceremonial law of Israel that was supposed to distinguish Israel from pagan nations, who did those acts as part of rituals.

When it comes to the body, my way of thinking is : "Whatever you do to your body, remember that it is the temple of God and you should honour it and rake care of it".

I don't think the Copts are sinful by having on their arms a tattoo meant as a symbol to recognize one another and to mark faith.

Leviticus has a lot of stuff that doesn't apply anymore since Jesus accomplished all of it, or that isn't understood by direct plain reading of the text, like everything related to physical impurities, leprosy et cetera...
And in this case, since it talks about "marking for the dead", I assume this has to be talking about some tattoos with spiritual pagan meaning.

I don't have a tattoo and don't plan on getting one, but I don't think I'd be sinning getting a big ass cross on my back if I ever wanted to, tbh
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You have to remember that a tattoo was used as a mark for a slave in those times, so that's probably also a big reason (Considering the Israelites just got out of slavery)
 
Yeah possibly, marking your body possibly had a means of communication or communion with the spirit of the dead ig, this happens a lot in animism.

I don't think getting a tattoo of an Ichtus has the same intent behind it geg
 
Nihilma said:
The verse before this one :

"Ye shall not round the corners of your heads, neither shalt thou mar the corners of thy beard."

Personally, I always understood this commandment as being part of the ceremonial law of Israel that was supposed to distinguish Israel from pagan nations, who did those acts as part of rituals.

When it comes to the body, my way of thinking is : "Whatever you do to your body, remember that it is the temple of God and you should honour it and rake care of it".

I don't think the Copts are sinful by having on their arms a tattoo meant as a symbol to recognize one another and to mark faith.

Leviticus has a lot of stuff that doesn't apply anymore since Jesus accomplished all of it, or that isn't understood by direct plain reading of the text, like everything related to physical impurities, leprosy et cetera...
And in this case, since it talks about "marking for the dead", I assume this has to be talking about some tattoos with spiritual pagan meaning.

I don't have a tattoo and don't plan on getting one, but I don't think I'd be sinning getting a big ass cross on my back if I ever wanted to, tbh
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Can Orthodox Christians Have Tattoos?

Many converts to Orthodox Christianity wonder what the Church teaches about tattoos and piercings. We explore that in this post!
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Simple answer : it is a sin. No amount of massive paragraphs or arguments that depend on limited human logic will change that.
 
Aedra said:
Simple answer : it is a sin. No amount of massive paragraphs or arguments that depend on limited human logic will change that.
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This mentality really doesn't make talking about faith enjoyable at all.
I take it you don't actually want to talk about faith if I disagree with you, alright then.
I disagree with you = I don't wanna talk about it is very far from what Church Fathers and apologists did and still do.
 
BLACKHAWK said:
how is believing in a jew on a stick niggebabble?
there's nothing insane about made up character who didnt do anything and has no record of existence.
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>there's nothing insane about made up character who didnt do anything and has no record of existence.
i assume you mean no record of existence asides from all the 1st- and 2nd-century jews calling him a filthy blasphemer who will burn in hell for claiming to be god?
 
Aedra said:
I could go on a long rant here about it, but all you need to do to understand the kinds of shit these people believe is to read 114 of the heretical Gospel of Thomas. It literally promotes trannydom and gnostics generally regard such texts as credible. They get too heavily influenced by ancient Greek Philosophy and Zoroastrianism. One example is Marcionism, Marcion promoted a narrative that rejected the Old Testament entirely and made a distinction between the "God of the Old Testament" and "God of the New Testament" where OT God was the evil creator of the material universe whereas the NT God was the benevolent God. Gnosticism did not immediately die out after the Patristic Era but resurfaced itself occasionally in the form of Paulicians, the Tondrakists etc etc. It gets a bit difficult to explain since Gnosticism itself is a broad term covering a lot of different stuff that could very well be different religions of their own and not mere interpretations.

TL;DR Gnostics aren't truly Christian.
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>literalism for something that's obviously allegorical/some sort of idiom
Retarderald + Read VALIS/Exegesis + montalk.net
 
Aedra said:
I could go on a long rant here about it, but all you need to do to understand the kinds of shit these people believe is to read 114 of the heretical Gospel of Thomas. It literally promotes trannydom and gnostics generally regard such texts as credible. They get too heavily influenced by ancient Greek Philosophy and Zoroastrianism. One example is Marcionism, Marcion promoted a narrative that rejected the Old Testament entirely and made a distinction between the "God of the Old Testament" and "God of the New Testament" where OT God was the evil creator of the material universe whereas the NT God was the benevolent God. Gnosticism did not immediately die out after the Patristic Era but resurfaced itself occasionally in the form of Paulicians, the Tondrakists etc etc. It gets a bit difficult to explain since Gnosticism itself is a broad term covering a lot of different stuff that could very well be different religions of their own and not mere interpretations.

TL;DR Gnostics aren't truly Christian.
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Also
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>[saying probably added to the original collection at a later date;]

Definitely added by a subversive.
 

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