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>Christianity was "just what the greeks taught, but dumbed down".
holy retard
 
Why am I Orthodox and not Catholic or Protestant? Because the world we are living in today is a direct consequence of western heretical 'christianity'. Some Orthodox writers would go as far as saying what is practiced in the west is not even Christianity, but something else entirely. One can already see how the seeds of modernism were sown within medieval Catholic Europe. Western civilization has failed because it is founded on false theology. Ever notice how the western depiction of God is to always make God look like them? This is because the western Europeans have replaced God with themselves, with the so called "Aryan man". That's what papism is all about and protestantism is merely an extension of it where every man is his own pope.

"Ecumenism is the common name for the pseudo-Christianity of the pseudo-Churches of Western Europe. Within it is the heart of European humanism, with Papism as its head. All of pseudo-Christianity, all of those pseudo-Churches, are nothing more than one heresy after another. Their common evangelical name is: Pan-heresy. Why? This is because through the course of history various heresies denied or deformed certain aspects of the God-man and Lord Jesus Christ; these European heresies remove Him altogether and put European man in His place. In this there is no essential difference between Papism, Protestantism, Ecumenism, and other heresies, whose name is ‘Legion.’

Orthodox dogma, that is to say the overriding dogma of the Church, is rejected by them and replaced by the Latin heretical overriding dogma of the primacy and infallibility of the Pope, that is to say of man. From this pan-heresy heresies were born and continue to be born: the Filioque, the rejection of the invocation of the Holy Spirit, unleavened bread, the introduction of created grace, cleansing fire, superfluous works of the saints, mechanized teachings about salvation, and from this sprang mechanized teachings about life, Papocaesarism, the Inquisition, indulgences, the murder of sinners because of their sins, Jesuitism, the scholastics, the casuists, Monarchianism, and social individualism of different kinds…"
-St. Justin Popovich
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I <3 God rn im absolute fasting for 1 day 4 repentance and to repair my relationship with God

They are not of love. They are of hate. God loves all. Jesus Christ loves everyone , every race and every sex. To wish for a certain race to be dead is of hate , not of love.
Although I like saying it I am extremely for this. A soul is dead when it wishes nothing more for their peers to be dead. Misanthropism is anti-Christian, and so is racism, sexism, and every -ism out there. The most important thing as Christians to do is to love and keep steadfast in the faith. Hatred is the language of the devil. Nuff said
 
Ever notice how the western depiction of God is to always make God look like them? This is because the western Europeans have replaced God with themselves, with the so called "Aryan man".
I thought we depicted God with a human figure because of how the Book of Genesis, and some of the other books of the Bible, describe His appearance. Most notably is the verse in Genesis, in the first chapter:
>And God prepareth the man in His image; in the image of God He prepared him, a male and a female He prepared them.
If He made us in the image of Himself, I'd imagine He has the same anatomy as us.
If we want to get into specifics since you're talking about Western Europeans depicting God "as themselves", are you talking more about race? I feel like they've just depicted God as a White because God Himself lacks any phenotypic qualities of race that we know of, and since we were made "in His image" they just thought "Well, this is how we look like, and I doubt many other folk from around the world will see this painting and then delve into the particular detail of the racial features present in my art." You could depict God the Father as an African, a Chinaman, a Palestinian, and since we're all made in the same anatomy of God (His image), all of those, as long as the human figure is kept, since every race is just a subspecies of the human species that was made in His image, would be accurate, at least from what I'm thinking (and I may be wrong about how we depict God, who knows. I'm not always good at talking about this stuff). No doubt that, in depictions of God where it's the Son, obviously it's better to keep Jesus' appearance more phenotypically and racially accurate to reflect His humanness, but honestly I don't see what the big deal is with focusing on how "the Western depiction of God" is really just a front to project our human nature upon God's perfectness through the use of portraying him as an Aryan man. I don't see it as the intention, nor as what's at all happening here in the art. I guess art and depictions probably have a bigger importance in your theology, doe, since you're an Eastern Orthodox and you guys have a lot of art in your churches in the form of icons.
 
I thought we depicted God with a human figure because of how the Book of Genesis, and some of the other books of the Bible, describe His appearance. Most notably is the verse in Genesis, in the first chapter:
>And God prepareth the man in His image; in the image of God He prepared him, a male and a female He prepared them.
If He made us in the image of Himself, I'd imagine He has the same anatomy as us.
If we want to get into specifics since you're talking about Western Europeans depicting God "as themselves", are you talking more about race? I feel like they've just depicted God as a White because God Himself lacks any phenotypic qualities of race that we know of, and since we were made "in His image" they just thought "Well, this is how we look like, and I doubt many other folk from around the world will see this painting and then delve into the particular detail of the racial features present in my art." You could depict God the Father as an African, a Chinaman, a Palestinian, and since we're all made in the same anatomy of God (His image), all of those, as long as the human figure is kept, since every race is just a subspecies of the human species that was made in His image, would be accurate, at least from what I'm thinking (and I may be wrong about how we depict God, who knows. I'm not always good at talking about this stuff). No doubt that, in depictions of God where it's the Son, obviously it's better to keep Jesus' appearance more phenotypically and racially accurate to reflect His humanness, but honestly I don't see what the big deal is with focusing on how "the Western depiction of God" is really just a front to project our human nature upon God's perfectness through the use of portraying him as an Aryan man. I don't see it as the intention, nor as what's at all happening here in the art. I guess art and depictions probably have a bigger importance in your theology, doe, since you're an Eastern Orthodox and you guys have a lot of art in your churches in the form of icons.
Yeah I don't necessarily object to depicting Jesus as a white man or anything. What I've stated is part of a bigger point about the social individualism and narcissism that runs rampant in western civilization as a whole. And I tie that down to western Christianity. Because the fundamental fault of western Christianity is the idea that the outer logic of things is more important than the inner essence of things. There's always a desire to make the faith fit into what they conceive as reality. The Eastern Church, in contrast, took refuge in the traditions and canons of the church before human logic or reason, making it immune to change. In the West, there was first philosophy within the faith (Scholasticism), then reformation within the faith (Protestantism), and then finally, philosophy *outside* the faith (Enlightenment). From this point onward, all sorts of vile and wicked ideologies came out of western civilization, whether it's communism, capitalism, nazism, feminism, marxism, neo-paganism and whatever else one can think of. None of these things came out of Eastern Orthodox civilization, all of it originates from the West. This is why, from our perspective, Catholicism is often referred to as the oldest form of Protestantism. Because it was the first to introduce the idea that a man could be above the Holy Canons and traditions of the church. Protestantism merely takes the next logical step and distributes that right to everyone, and then the enlightenment takes the other logical step, and gives the "right" to reject the faith entirely. Leading to what you see today : rampant individualism and spiritual emptiness everywhere.
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What denomination are you all?
Roman Catholic
Although I like saying it I am extremely for this. A soul is dead when it wishes nothing more for their peers to be dead. Misanthropism is anti-Christian, and so is racism, sexism, and every -ism out there. The most important thing as Christians to do is to love and keep steadfast in the faith. Hatred is the language of the devil. Nuff said
TSMT , Do you know what language is understood by all? Love. Love is the most powerful power there is. Love transcends all language barriers and cultural ones. It is understood by every animal and everything that is sentient.
 
I could go on a long rant here about it, but all you need to do to understand the kinds of shit these people believe is to read 114 of the heretical Gospel of Thomas. It literally promotes trannydom and gnostics generally regard such texts as credible. They get too heavily influenced by ancient Greek Philosophy and Zoroastrianism. One example is Marcionism, Marcion promoted a narrative that rejected the Old Testament entirely and made a distinction between the "God of the Old Testament" and "God of the New Testament" where OT God was the evil creator of the material universe whereas the NT God was the benevolent God. Gnosticism did not immediately die out after the Patristic Era but resurfaced itself occasionally in the form of Paulicians, the Tondrakists etc etc. It gets a bit difficult to explain since Gnosticism itself is a broad term covering a lot of different stuff that could very well be different religions of their own and not mere interpretations.

TL;DR Gnostics aren't truly Christian.
 
I could go on a long rant here about it, but all you need to do to understand the kinds of shit these people believe is to read 114 of the heretical Gospel of Thomas. It literally promotes trannydom and gnostics generally regard such texts as credible. They get too heavily influenced by ancient Greek Philosophy and Zoroastrianism. One example is Marcionism, Marcion promoted a narrative that rejected the Old Testament entirely and made a distinction between the "God of the Old Testament" and "God of the New Testament" where OT God was the evil creator of the material universe whereas the NT God was the benevolent God. Gnosticism did not immediately die out after the Patristic Era but resurfaced itself occasionally in the form of Paulicians, the Tondrakists etc etc. It gets a bit difficult to explain since Gnosticism itself is a broad term covering a lot of different stuff that could very well be different religions of their own and not mere interpretations.

TL;DR Gnostics aren't truly Christian.
Interesting. Is the Gospel of Thomas not in the Bible?
 
Interesting. Is the Gospel of Thomas not in the Bible?
No, it was never included in the canon. There are plenty of early books like it that were rejected. The early Church existed without a proper Biblical canon for several centuries. But some of these texts were still held in high regard even if they didn't necessarily make it into the Bible, for example the Didache is still considered valuable today. The Gospel of Thomas on the other hand is a straight up gnostic book written by who the hell knows who.
 
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