Every hour you work you are being stolen from

[thrembolone]

karl marx explains this in his theory of surplus value. lets say you work 8 hours per day at the soyjak factory. in these 8 hours you produce 100 gems which go on to be sold for 10 dollars each on the market. but you are only paid 5 dollars per hour for your labor. less than the value you produce for Froot. While you made 40 dollars, Froot makes 460 dollars. the money that is produced by you but are taken from you is called surplus value. while the dollars you earn is a wage. surplus value is the appropriation of unpaid labor, the capitalist buys the labor power at its full value as a commidity on the market yet extracts more value than it then paid for.

 

[Xiuhcoyotl]

literal who

 

[Sagehardt]

commiepedotroon

 

[thrembolone]

literal who

>literal who

 

[Xiuhcoyotl]

>literal who
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[KingofTheRing]

>karl marx explains this in his theory of surplus value. lets say you work 8 hours per day at the soyjak factory. in these 8 hours you produce 100 gems which go on to be sold for 10 dollars each on the market. but you are only paid 5 dollars per hour for your labor. less than the value you produce for Froot. While you made 40 dollars, Froot makes 460 dollars. the money that is produced by you but are taken from you is called surplus value. while the dollars you earn is a wage. surplus value is the appropriation of unpaid labor, the capitalist buys the labor power at its full value as a commidity on the market yet extracts more value than it then paid for.

 

[Zarathustric Gestapo]

But I like being stolen from, it surpasses how mundane it is to earn the same daily revenue as my supposed thief. Coommies have no drive to compete in the theft industry, whence the pinnacle of human potential will only be realized.

 

[ISTANBUL]

that's, like, a problem, no?

 

[thrembolone]

that's, like, a problem, no?

yeah

 

[ISTANBUL]

yeah

damn, someone ought to do something about it

 

[thrembolone]

damn, someone ought to do something about it

yes comrade, sqqn

 

[Sagehardt]

 

[Zuse]

That is not necessarily from the ""capitalist"" but from your own government that makes your paycheck subject to heavy taxation (and wastes it on useless projects) that reduces your final wage to less than 60-75% of the original value. You also miss a lot of other factors such as: the loss at which your employer pays you, the loss of investing in the construction of a factory, the loss of having to pay electricity and machinery, etc. All of that results in the employer having to take greater risks at the expense of trying to at least make a profit. If it doesn't work out, he can't pay you and a lot of jobs have been lost.

 

[thrembolone]

nucapitalistnazis, i advise you all to watch this video.

 

[ImSchizophrenicThough]

I can handle the jew stealing my money, but the tax man? Nah bro

 

[KingofTheRing]

I can handle the jew stealing my money, but the tax man? Nah bro

 

[Spasoje's Revenge]

Wrong because I'm unemployed

 

[Goot]

Not unless you're stealing from work

 

[Stephen]

The premise is flawed, the value of the commodities isnt determined until it is set and sold, we can only predict value from what came before.
The working 'jak isnt being stolen from, because nothing is yet there. If the gems turn out to be worth 0$ on market day Froot still has to pay the 5$ wages for what they made, which means by this theory they are destroying value, which is either somehow "stolen" from his voluntary investment, or that he stole -5$ of value from the worker. He cant unpay those 5$, they agreed that it would be their property after the hour.
Surplus value doesn't exist!

 

[FrogKing]

The premise is flawed, the value of the commodities isnt determined until it is set and sold, we can only predict value from what came before.
The working 'jak isnt being stolen from, because nothing is yet there. If the gems turn out to be worth 0$ on market day Froot still has to pay the 5$ wages for what they made, which means by this theory they are destroying value, which is either somehow "stolen" from his voluntary investment, or that he stole -5$ of value from the worker. He cant unpay those 5$, they agreed that it would be their property after the hour.
Surplus value doesn't exist!

This is wrong, the value of a commodity is defined by the socially necessary labor time required for its production, and you're conflating price with value.