thread_prefix.19 General christian thread

[X Immigrant]

Notice how he didn't respond. That means he actually thinks we can do whatever the fuck we want as long as we believe in Jesus.

 

[Nihilma]

So you have to work to keep your salvation? Sounds like works, and not a free gift.

Read the entire Book of Galatians, its like 6 chapters. The Bible is very clear.

Bible Gateway passage: Galatians 6 - King James Version

Brethren, if a man be overtaken in a fault, ye which are spiritual, restore such an one in the spirit of meekness; considering thyself, lest thou also be tempted. Bear ye one another's burdens, and so fulfil the law of Christ. For if a man think himself to be something, when he is nothing, he...

www.biblegateway.com

And I've already read the NT multiple times in it's entirety, I can't read the entirety of Galatians mid convo

 

[X Immigrant]

And I've already read the NT multiple times in it's entirety, I can't read the entirety of Galatians mid convo

Don't listen to this retard, Galatians is about not following pre-covenant law above Jesus and God, it says nothing about how "being a bad person...is le actually NOT sinful!"

 

[nagolbud]

TSMT xister! Let's murder babies and fuck dogs as long as we have faith in Christ! I can see why you would hold this opinion.

That's Orthodix pagan priests...

 

[Nihilma]

Notice how he didn't respond. That means he actually thinks we can do whatever the fuck we want as long as we believe in Jesus.

Calvinists don't believe that in practice, and Nagol seems to be a calvinist.
They believe that the Holy Spirit moves the "real christian" in a way that pleases God, aka in a just life, without the christian having to do a lot.
That's because they believe in a very strong version of original sin, a version so strong that basically says that even the human will has been tainted by sin, and man can never even by himself chose Christ, therefore God "predestines" some people to salvation.
The predestination stuff is actually in the Bible but there's a lot of interpretation for it

 

[nagolbud]

And I've already read the NT multiple times in it's entirety, I can't read the entirety of Galatians mid convo

I've done it like 5 times in the last 20 minutes...

Don't listen to this retard, Galatians is about not following pre-covenant law above Jesus and God, it says nothing about how "being a bad person...is le actually NOT sinful!"

Awww is the little pagan priest lover getting angggy. Little temper tantrum...

 

[nagolbud]

Calvinists don't believe that in practice, and Nagol seems to be a calvinist.
They believe that the Holy Spirit moves the "real christian" in a way that pleases God, aka in a just life, without the christian having to do a lot.
That's because they believe in a very strong version of original sin, a version so strong that basically says that even the human will has been tainted by sin, and man can never even by himself chose Christ, therefore God "predestines" some people to salvation.
The predestination stuff is actually in the Bible but there's a lot of interpretation for it

Yeah keep trying to put labels on me, it's cute, ignorant, and delusional. Strange how you have to tell me what I believe when I'm simply using the Bible to prove ya'll larping religious retardary. Ya'll just wanna inject your own pride into salvation so you can lord it over others, it's pathetic and cringe.

 

[Nihilma]

Don't listen to this retard, Galatians is about not following pre-covenant law above Jesus and God, it says nothing about how "being a bad person...is le actually NOT sinful!"

Yes I know, don't worry.
I'm just being charitable

 

[Nihilma]

I've done it like 5 times in the last 20 minutes...

Geg, good one.
And I've recited Psalm 119 four times in the last minute

 

[X Immigrant]

Awww is the little pagan priest lover getting angggy. Little temper tantrum...

You're the one sperging out over the fact that you have to be a good person in the Bible.

That's Orthodix pagan priests...
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Those are all from Western Christianity. What are you talking about?

 

[Nihilma]

Yeah keep trying to put labels on me, it's cute, ignorant, and delusional. Strange how you have to tell me what I believe when I'm simply using the Bible to prove ya'll larping religious retardary. Ya'll just wanna inject your own pride into salvation so you can lord it over others, it's pathetic and cringe.

I'm not putting labels on you, I'm putting labels on what you're saying, because there are multiple internal logics on which to do theology on, and calvinism is the internal logic that ends with your conclusions

 

[nagolbud]

Geg, good one.
And I've recited Psalm 119 four times in the last minute

9 Simon Peter saith unto him, Lord, not my feet only, but also my hands and my head.

10 Jesus saith to him, He that is washed needeth not save to wash his feet, but is clean every whit: and ye are clean, but not all.

11 For he knew who should betray him; therefore said he, Ye are not all clean.

12 So after he had washed their feet, and had taken his garments, and was set down again, he said unto them, Know ye what I have done to you?

13 Ye call me Master and Lord: and ye say well; for so I am.

14 If I then, your Lord and Master, have washed your feet; ye also ought to wash one another's feet.

15 For I have given you an example, that ye should do as I have done to you.

John 13:9-15

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42 But Jesus called them to him, and saith unto them, Ye know that they which are accounted to rule over the Gentiles exercise lordship over them; and their great ones exercise authority upon them.

43 But so shall it not be among you: but whosoever will be great among you, shall be your minister:

44 And whosoever of you will be the chiefest, shall be servant of all.

Mark 10:42-44

 

[X Immigrant]

Next thing he's gonna try and do is find bad things Eastern Orthodox Christians have done.

 

[nagolbud]

I'm not putting labels on you, I'm putting labels on what you're saying, because there are multiple internal logics on which to do theology on, and calvinism is the internal logic that ends with your conclusions

I'm quoting the Bible that contradicts your religion. Quite literally. I seem to be the only one using scripture to defend my doctrine.

 

[Nihilma]

9 Simon Peter saith unto him, Lord, not my feet only, but also my hands and my head.

10 Jesus saith to him, He that is washed needeth not save to wash his feet, but is clean every whit: and ye are clean, but not all.

11 For he knew who should betray him; therefore said he, Ye are not all clean.

12 So after he had washed their feet, and had taken his garments, and was set down again, he said unto them, Know ye what I have done to you?

13 Ye call me Master and Lord: and ye say well; for so I am.

14 If I then, your Lord and Master, have washed your feet; ye also ought to wash one another's feet.

15 For I have given you an example, that ye should do as I have done to you.

John 13:9-15

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42 But Jesus called them to him, and saith unto them, Ye know that they which are accounted to rule over the Gentiles exercise lordship over them; and their great ones exercise authority upon them.

43 But so shall it not be among you: but whosoever will be great among you, shall be your minister:

44 And whosoever of you will be the chiefest, shall be servant of all.
Mark 10:42-44

None of those verses are in Galatians doe

 

[X Immigrant]

We used scripture to defend the works, tradition, and refute your points. Multiple times.

 

[Nihilma]

I'm quoting the Bible that contradicts your religion. Quite literally. I seem to be the only one using scripture to defend my doctrine.

I've used multiple times the scriptures you quoted to prove you wrong, such as when you didn't answer me on the bible and the "inspired" Word of God.
You should be more charitable and less prideful Nagolbud.

 

[nagolbud]

None of those verses are in Galatians doe

I told you to read Galatians, and now I'm adding too it. I've not only read it, but used the scripture that literally contradicts your doctrine so that you too can be secure in your salvation, with no need for anything other than your Bible.

 

[nagolbud]

I've used multiple times the scriptures you quoted to prove you wrong, such as when you didn't answer me on the bible and the "inspired" Word of God.
You should be more charitable and less prideful Nagolbud.

So either you believe the Bible is the Word of God or you don't. Your beef is with Jesus Christ and the Bible. Not me. If you choose to disown the Bible in lew of your pride, that's your choice.

 

[Nihilma]

I told you to read Galatians, and now I'm adding too it. I've not only read it, but used the scripture that literally contradicts your doctrine so that you too can be secure in your salvation, with no need for anything other than your Bible.

Well I've quoted your scripture quotes, and I've even added to it in the forms of romans' quotes. I've not only read it, but used the scripture that literally contradicts your doctrine so that you too can be secure in your salvation, with no need for anything other than your Bible and tradition