thread_prefix.19 General christian thread

[X Immigrant]

Peter wouldn't become a Pharisee,

Enforcing traditions is being a pharisee now, despite multiple quotes being provided by the apostles that tradition is good.

nor would He ever wear some stupid ass frilly gold dresses with pagan hats. Grow up.

He would at least wear robes and pectoral crosses. And those 'pagan hats' are from pre-covenant Christians.

 

[nagolbud]

Enforcing traditions is being a pharisee now, despite multiple quotes being provided by the apostles that tradition is good.

He would at least wear robes and pectoral crosses. And those 'pagan hats' are from pre-covenant Christians.

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[X Immigrant]

Even the apostles were sinners and there are plenty of times they called eachother out.

So you think they sinned by enforcing tradition? This is bad, even from you. If they sinned with these traditions, and if the specific sin is misinterpreting Jesus's word, then there's no telling how they lied in the Bible.

I follow the word of God, and have faith in Jesus Christ, nothing else is required of me. End of story. Anything else is religious larp.

No, you're required to believe in works as said by James.

 

[X Immigrant]

No he wouldn't support idolatry... and if you're going to support idolatry, buy some anti-heretic gear so Pastor Nagolbud can preach to the religious heretics more often...

Iconography isn't idolatry, and icons were found in the early house churches.

 

[nagolbud]

So you think they sinned by enforcing tradition? This is bad, even from you. If they sinned with these traditions, and if the specific sin is misinterpreting Jesus's word, then there's no telling how they lied in the Bible.

No, you're required to believe in works as said by James.

This is why you don't follow the man, you follow the Bible. You just proved by your own words why you don't follow traditions of MEN, and why it's dangerous, and why the Bible warns against it over 100 times.

All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness. 2 Timothy 3:16

 

[nagolbud]

Iconography isn't idolatry, and icons were found in the early house churches.

Here we go again......

 

[X Immigrant]

This is why you don't follow the man, you follow the Bible. You just proved by your own words why you don't follow traditions of MEN, and why it's dangerous, and why the Bible warns against it over 100 times.

They're the traditions of God. However, if you think they aren't the true words of God because they're human and must have made mistakes(with every single tradition enforced btw) then it's safe to assume they made the same amount of mistakes compiling the Bible.

 

[nagolbud]

They're the traditions of God. However, if you think they aren't the true words of God because they're human and must have made mistakes(with every single tradition enforced btw) then it's safe to assume they made the same amount of mistakes compiling the Bible.

IF they aren't in the Bible, and are not in the Word of God, then these traditions did not come from God. They came from man. How many times does this need to be repeated? Did God float down and tell you to worship men in dresses? And tell you to carry out cracker throwing traditions? And worshipping black cubes? Even so, it would be your word, not Gods. Aka traditions of men. Very simple. Stop clinging to your cult. It's cringe.

 

[X Immigrant]

Here we go again......

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Only the third image is really relevant...

Notice how in the second commandment God says he is a 'jealous' God. That would mean he's referring to anything that's not of him.

Proving my assumption, Exodus 36:35-37:9 requires Moses to make iconography.

IF they aren't in the Bible, and are not in the Word of God, then these traditions did not come from God. They came from man.

What if some words of God simply weren't written in the Bible, or those words promoting it were lost(This has been proven in fact)? Again, you're not trusting the men who compiled it anyways.

Did God float down and tell you to worship men in dresses?

Worship? No...

And tell you to carry out cracker throwing traditions?

How do you mean? Are you talking about the body and blood of Christ?

And worshipping black cubes?

We don't do this fuckwit.

Even so, it would be your word, not Gods. Aka traditions of men.

Repeating yourself, refer to my first sentence in this reply.

Very simple. Stop clinging to your cult. It's cringe.

I guess the original Christians and the apostles were in a cult.

 

[nagolbud]

Only the third image is really relevant...

Notice how in the second commandment God says he is a 'jealous' God. That would mean he's referring to anything that's not of him.

Proving my assumption, Exodus 36:35-37:9 requires Moses to make iconography.

What if some words of God simply weren't written in the Bible, or those words promoting it were lost(This has been proven in fact)? Again, you're not trusting the men who compiled it anyways.

Worship? No...

How do you mean? Are you talking about the body and blood of Christ?

We don't do this fuckwit.

Repeating yourself, refer to my first sentence in this reply.

I guess the original Christians and the apostles were in a cult.

How do you get to heaven based on the cult of Orthodix?

"Before this final judgment the departed go either to hades, the abode of the dead, or to paradise where they have life in Christ."

 

[X Immigrant]

Faith and works.

 

[nagolbud]

Faith and works.

How many good works do you have to do to get into heaven?

 

[X Immigrant]

How much faith do you have to have to get into heaven? Works are not a unit of measurement and cannot be measured. Next question.

 

[nagolbud]

How much faith do you have to have to get into heaven? Works are not a unit of measurement and cannot be measured. Next question.

So how do you know if you are saved if you can't measure your good works?

 

[Nihilma]

Faith and works.

Even dough the distinction doesn't even have to happen as one without the other is futile.
Works don't save, faith does. But faith without works is dead, therefore faith includes works, even if works don't save

 

[X Immigrant]

How do you know if you are saved if you can't measure faith?

 

[Nihilma]

So how do you know if you are saved if you can't measure your good works?

Repentance

 

[nagolbud]

How do you know if you are saved if you can't measure faith?

Even dough the distinction doesn't even have to happen as one without the other is futile.
Works don't save, faith does. But faith without works is dead, therefore faith includes works, even if works don't save

Here's what the Bible actually says..

But we are all as an unclean thing, and all our righteousnesses are as filthy rags; and we all do fade as a leaf; and our iniquities, like the wind, have taken us away. Isaiah 64:6

I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live; yet not I, but Christ liveth in me: and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by the faith of the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself for me. I do not frustrate the grace of God: for if righteousness come by the law, then Christ is dead in vain. Galatians 2:20-21

For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. John 3:16

Bible Gateway passage: Galatians 1 - King James Version

Paul, an apostle, (not of men, neither by man, but by Jesus Christ, and God the Father, who raised him from the dead;) And all the brethren which are with me, unto the churches of Galatia: Grace be to you and peace from God the Father, and from our Lord Jesus Christ, Who gave himself for our...

www.biblegateway.com

 

[nagolbud]

Repentance

re·pent·ance
sincere regret or remorse.

It does not mean turning from sin, or stopping sin as fake christians like to larp.

 

[X Immigrant]

Here's what the Bible actually says..

But we are all as an unclean thing, and all our righteousnesses are as filthy rags; and we all do fade as a leaf; and our iniquities, like the wind, have taken us away. Isaiah 64:6

I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live; yet not I, but Christ liveth in me: and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by the faith of the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself for me. I do not frustrate the grace of God: for if righteousness come by the law, then Christ is dead in vain. Galatians 2:20-21

For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. John 3:16

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Bible Gateway passage: Galatians 1 - King James Version

Paul, an apostle, (not of men, neither by man, but by Jesus Christ, and God the Father, who raised him from the dead;) And all the brethren which are with me, unto the churches of Galatia: Grace be to you and peace from God the Father, and from our Lord Jesus Christ, Who gave himself for our...

www.biblegateway.com

We've already gone over what the Bible has said about works.