thread_prefix.19 General christian thread

[X Immigrant]

So it's not the word of God? You just admitted that you do not believe the Bible is the word of God, therefor you are not a Bible believer.

No, I'm saying the apostles didn't include everything.

How did God give you these traditions if they are not in the Bible?

Refer to:

From Jesus who taught the apostles, who followed his traditions as we see in Peter, who taught the people, who followed those traditions as seen in early house churches.

All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness 2 Timothy 3:16

Oh, good. Why did Protfags remove scripture then?

 

[Aedra]

The Bible is not a book, it is made up of multiple books.
Hence why people aren't always clear on what is scripture and what isn't.

The cannon of the old testament wasn't clear for a long time, and even during the times of jesus, there was debate among the jews about the last part of the TaNaKh, aka the Ketouvim, as for what is inspired or not. This is the big difference between muslims and christians.
Muslims believe the Quran to be the Word of God in a way that makes arabic a holy language, because allah literally gave to muhammad a word for word transcription of the quran., of his Word

Christians believe that the bible is both divine and human, as Jesus, who is the Word of God. There's incredible parallels here if one digs a bit.
That is, because the bible isn't the literal Word of God, it is the "inspired" Word of God, and God can speak through men by his inspiration elsewhere than the Bible. But the Bible is the center of tradition, the center of God's inspired revelation.

Honestly I think you guys are wasting your time by arguing with him. He always just says "you're wrong and I'm right" no matter how much proof you throw at him.

 

[nagolbud]

The Bible is not a book, it is made up of multiple books.
Hence why people aren't always clear on what is scripture and what isn't.

The cannon of the old testament wasn't clear for a long time, and even during the times of jesus, there was debate among the jews about the last part of the TaNaKh, aka the Ketouvim, as for what is inspired or not. This is the big difference between muslims and christians.
Muslims believe the Quran to be the Word of God in a way that makes arabic a holy language, because allah literally gave to muhammad a word for word transcription of the quran., of his Word

Christians believe that the bible is both divine and human, as Jesus, who is the Word of God. There's incredible parallels here if one digs a bit.
That is, because the bible isn't the literal Word of God, it is the "inspired" Word of God, and God can speak through men by his inspiration elsewhere than the Bible. But the Bible is the center of tradition, the center of God's inspired revelation.

Quran was provably written by the pagan priest class after the Romans killed off the remaining Jews. This is co-exist larping faggotry.

 

[nagolbud]

No, I'm saying the apostles didn't include everything.

Says you? Tradition of MAN.

How did God give you these traditions if they are not in the Bible?

All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness 2 Timothy 3:16

 

[Aedra]

Quran was provably written by the pagan priest class after the Romans killed off the remaining Jews. This is co-exist larping faggotry.

>the romans wrote the quran

Schizo brimstone from the depths of south America.

 

[X Immigrant]

Says you?

Yes, says me. This is called rationalization, which I can rationalize you haven't heard of.

Tradition of MAN.

No proof.

How did God give you these traditions if they are not in the Bible?

Already answered.

 

[nagolbud]

Honestly I think you guys are wasting your time by arguing with him. He always just says "you're wrong and I'm right" no matter how much proof you throw at him.

Bible is right. Your religion is dumb as fuck. You are wasting your time. But the lurkers are getting the true gospel. So I don't mind repeating myself to show how delusional religion is, especially those that cling to man made traditions. Easy Bible W.

 

[Nihilma]

Quran was provably written by the pagan priest class after the Romans killed off the remaining Jews. This is co-exist larping faggotry.

You did not answer what I wrote.

 

[nagolbud]

Yes, says me. This is called rationalization, which I can rationalize you haven't heard of.

So you're word > the Bible. Perfect. I understand.

 

[nagolbud]

>the romans wrote the quran

Schizo brimstone from the depths of central America.

Romans weren't the pagan priest class... they were controlled by the pagan priest class, the Phoenicians who came from the Babylonian Talmud, after killing off the Tribe of Israel, they created the Catholic Church, Orthodix Church, and Quran, to control people. And it worked perfectly. They simply mixed the teachings of Jesus Christ with Paganism.

The pagan priest class did to the Romans, the same thing they did to Nazi Germany and now America and Europe.

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[X Immigrant]

So you're word > the Bible. Perfect. I understand.

No, traditions that are a representation of what Jesus said since they are from the apostles is equal to the Bible.

 

[Nihilma]

Romans weren't the pagan priest class... they were controlled by the pagan priest class, the Phoenicians who came from the Babylonian Talmud, after killing off the Tribe of Israel, they created the Catholic Church, Orthodix Church, and Quran, to control people. And it worked perfectly. They simply mixed the teachings of Jesus Christ with Paganism.

The pagan priest class did to the Romans, the same thing they did to Nazi Germany and now America and Europe.

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Historically speaking much is wrong here.
The babylonian talmud was written in 500.
Constantine became christian in 300.
Islam was born in 600.

 

[nagolbud]

 

[nagolbud]

Historically speaking much is wrong here.
The babylonian talmud was written in 500.
Constantine became christian in 300.
Islam was born in 600.

Google search isn't the best place to get a history lesson normie. What's next, a wiki article? Babylon existed in 800bc and they captured the Tribe of Israel around 600-700BC.

 

[Nihilma]

 

[X Immigrant]

Baylon existed back then, not the religious doctrine from there that he's referring to.

 

[nagolbud]

No, traditions that are a representation of what Jesus said since they are from the apostles is equal to the Bible.

LOL wut.... Which part?

13 But woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye shut up the kingdom of heaven against men: for ye neither go in yourselves, neither suffer ye them that are entering to go in.

14 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye devour widows' houses, and for a pretence make long prayer: therefore ye shall receive the greater damnation.

15 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye compass sea and land to make one proselyte, and when he is made, ye make him twofold more the child of hell than yourselves.

16 Woe unto you, ye blind guides, which say, Whosoever shall swear by the temple, it is nothing; but whosoever shall swear by the gold of the temple, he is a debtor!

17 Ye fools and blind: for whether is greater, the gold, or the temple that sanctifieth the gold?

18 And, Whosoever shall swear by the altar, it is nothing; but whosoever sweareth by the gift that is upon it, he is guilty.

19 Ye fools and blind: for whether is greater, the gift, or the altar that sanctifieth the gift?

20 Whoso therefore shall swear by the altar, sweareth by it, and by all things thereon.

21 And whoso shall swear by the temple, sweareth by it, and by him that dwelleth therein.

22 And he that shall swear by heaven, sweareth by the throne of God, and by him that sitteth thereon.

23 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye pay tithe of mint and anise and cummin, and have omitted the weightier matters of the law, judgment, mercy, and faith: these ought ye to have done, and not to leave the other undone.

24 Ye blind guides, which strain at a gnat, and swallow a camel.

25 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye make clean the outside of the cup and of the platter, but within they are full of extortion and excess.

26 Thou blind Pharisee, cleanse first that which is within the cup and platter, that the outside of them may be clean also.

27 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye are like unto whited sepulchres, which indeed appear beautiful outward, but are within full of dead men's bones, and of all uncleanness.

28 Even so ye also outwardly appear righteous unto men, but within ye are full of hypocrisy and iniquity.

29 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! because ye build the tombs of the prophets, and garnish the sepulchres of the righteous,

Bible Gateway passage: Matthew 23 - King James Version

Then spake Jesus to the multitude, and to his disciples, Saying The scribes and the Pharisees sit in Moses' seat: All therefore whatsoever they bid you observe, that observe and do; but do not ye after their works: for they say, and do not. For they bind heavy burdens and grievous to be borne...

www.biblegateway.com

 

[X Immigrant]

Good thing pharisees aren't the apostles.

 

[nagolbud]

Tribe of Israel simply believed the Old Testament. The Babylon Talmud was created after Babylon enslaved the Israelites. The same priest class killed Jesus Christ, and then tried to cover Him up by creating the 4 horse men religions, all worship the black cube of satan, aka baal and baphomet. Not hard to figure out... the best place for Satan to hide is in the church.

 

[Nihilma]

Google search isn't the best place to get a history lesson normie. What's next, a wiki article? Babylon existed in 800bc and they captured the Tribe of Israel around 600-700BC.

You are not authority on history. It isn't because you make up something that suddenly it becomes reality.
Google is more accurate than you when it comes to history and scientific data, because it compiles and gives the modern consensus on purely empirical data.
Google sucks for theology, politics and philosophy. But not raw data and history.

You give random numbers without a single proof