thread_prefix.19 General christian thread

Nihilma said:
I think remembrance can be part of prayer, absolutely, but in and of it's own it's a bit void of relationship.
And communion with God is a relationship.
You can remember something on your own, and that would not be being in relationship with someone, but if you actively talk with someone and relive a memory with them, then it becomes a relationship (french - english translation might have caused some problem in my explanation here, sorry)
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ohh right and is there any physical part
 
princessparkles said:
ohh right and is there any physical part
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Protestants have sadly mostly abandonned the physicality of the faith, dangerously returning to a platonic way of looking at the christian life, but even then it's a generalization. Some protestant still believe that the bread and wine truly become Christ for example, also in a physical way.

But orthodox and catholics absolutely do yeah. Orthodox and cahtolics alike sign their own bodies with the sign of the cross during each prayer, mention of the trinity or during the kyrie eleison. It's a way of making the body participate in prayer as well as the soul, for both the body and the soul are creation of God made in his image, even though God has no body in his nature (the incarnation of the Son being in time, not outside of time).
 
Nihilma said:
Protestants have sadly mostly abandonned the physicality of the faith, dangerously returning to a platonic way of looking at the christian life, but even then it's a generalization. Some protestant still believe that the bread and wine truly become Christ for example, also in a physical way.

But orthodox and catholics absolutely do yeah. Orthodox and cahtolics alike sign their own bodies with the sign of the cross during each prayer, mention of the trinity or during the kyrie eleison. It's a way of making the body participate in prayer as well as the soul, for both the body and the soul are creation of God made in his image, even though God has no body in his nature (the incarnation of the Son being in time, not outside of time).
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kyrie eleison?
also, what was it again with the bread
cath believe it IS the flesh and blood of jesus, protestants believe it could be?? would turn into??
 
Nihilma said:
Protestants have sadly mostly abandonned the physicality of the faith, dangerously returning to a platonic way of looking at the christian life, but even then it's a generalization. Some protestant still believe that the bread and wine truly become Christ for example, also in a physical way.
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The church I attend doesn't partake in communion, but I do personally raise my hands upwards with my palms facing myself in praise to God when I am on my floor in genuflection during my private prayers. There's some sense of physicality by the motions we do to praise and thank The Lord, but it doesn't seem like those motions are very uniform among ourselves; some will raise their hands, some will clasp them to their heart, some will even do the sign of the cross, too, including myself at times, but there's no set structure, of course.
 
baqqrih said:
The church I attend doesn't partake in communion, but I do personally raise my hands upwards with my palms facing myself in praise to God when I am on my floor in genuflection during my private prayers. There's some sense of physicality by the motions we do to praise and thank The Lord, but it doesn't seem like those motions are very uniform among ourselves; some will raise their hands, some will clasp them to their heart, some will even do the sign of the cross, too, including myself at times, but there's no set structure, of course.
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Oh very true, I forgot about that.
It's true that protestants are, especially evangelists, much more physical in this direction, especially when adoring in songs and music. In contrast orthodox and catholics could be considered stern, even. Protestants in France have developped these past ten years the habbit of elevating their hands to God when singing. Neet that you do it also when praying, must be physically exhausting if you pray in lenghts lol.
 
princessparkles said:
kyrie eleison?
also, what was it again with the bread
cath believe it IS the flesh and blood of jesus, protestants believe it could be?? would turn into??
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Many modern protestants have adopted the historically anabaptist theology of considering the bread and wine to only be a symbol, a remembrance of the sacrifice of Jesus, where catholics, orthodox, and many historic protestants view the bread and wine as becoming Christ through the litturgy and the office given by the priest, which is a living icon of Christ.
 
Nihilma said:
Many modern protestants have adopted the historically anabaptist theology of considering the bread and wine to only be a symbol, a remembrance of the sacrifice of Jesus, where catholics, orthodox, and many historic protestants view the bread and wine as becoming Christ through the litturgy and the office given by the priest, which is a living icon of Christ.
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she gone
 
Nihilma said:
Many modern protestants have adopted the historically anabaptist theology of considering the bread and wine to only be a symbol, a remembrance of the sacrifice of Jesus
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i always thought that the majority view among protestants was that the bread and wine become jesus's body and blood spiritually, but not materially
 
princessparkles said:
kyrie eleison?
also, what was it again with the bread
cath believe it IS the flesh and blood of jesus, protestants believe it could be?? would turn into??
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Oh and also kyrie eleison means "Lord, have mercy" and is one of the most repeated prayers in catholic and especially orthodox tradition.
It's a shortened version of "Lord Jesus Christ, Son of God, have mercy upon me, a sinner", which is called the Jesus prayer
 
AshkeNazi said:
i always thought that the majority view among protestants was that the bread and wine become jesus's body and blood spiritually, but not materially
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Protestants are not known to hold councils unfortunately, and there has ALWAYS been disagreement on this. The Eucharist is one of the things protestants CANNOT agree on lol, and it's one of the things that turned me away from Sola Scriptura.
Because it is fundamentally an essential of the faith, and if Sola Scriptura were to be true, then every christian who has the Bible should agree on the essentials of the faith through the Bible and the Holy Spirit alone.

Truth is they do NOT agree lol
 
Nihilma said:
Protestants are not known to hold councils unfortunately, and there has ALWAYS been disagreement on this. The Eucharist is one of the things protestants CANNOT agree on lol, and it's one of the things that turned me away from Sola Scriptura.
Because it is fundamentally an essential of the faith, and if Sola Scriptura were to be true, then every christian who has the Bible should agree on the essentials of the faith through the Bible and the Holy Spirit alone.

Truth is they do NOT agree lol
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Although, if I have to be very honest about this, protestants don't even agree on what Sola Scriptura means.
I disagree with the modern understanding of Sola Scriptura, but from what I gather, Martin Luther and most reformers had a much more humble view of this Sola Scriptura.

My current view of the scriptures is that they can't be separated from Holy Tradition, and that they should be understood through it's lenses.
However, I do still agree with the first reformers with the theology that scriptures is at the center of tradition.
All Church Fathers I believe would agree with this, since they used scriptures as their main arguments 90% of the time.
 
Aedra_222 said:
Endless schism. That's all protestantism boils down to.
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Btw the hieromonk of my local orthodox monastery comes to eat and discuss with my family after tomorrow, a tad nervous.
My father wanted to invite him to talk with him a bit, and so we're going to eat together. No meat on the menu, is there something else I should know ?
 
Nihilma said:
Btw the hieromonk of my local orthodox monastery comes to eat and discuss with my family after tomorrow, a tad nervous.
My father wanted to invite him to talk with him a bit, and so we're going to eat together. No meat on the menu, is there something else I should know ?
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no basil either
can't confirm this albeit
 
When I took Catechism before I got baptized and confirmed and had my first communion, they didn't have us read the actual Bible, but a graphic novel version of it called the "Action Bible". My Catechism teacher said that we would find the "Action Bible" more interesting than the regular Bible, while learning all the same stuff.
Because of this, I learned all the stories or the Bible without knowing the names of the books or exact text/quotes and citations. Did anybody else also have a similar experience?
 
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