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I go to a little protestant church, usually every Sunday and i see people extend their arms during different gospel songs, i usually attended catholic churches but now i live in a mostly protestant area, but i never knew the origins of this, why do protestants like to do that, where does it originate from? I know that it is to "extend yourself to God" but how did this come to life, when did this start happening and when?
 
What is the nature of lust as a sin? Is it all non-marital sexual desire or is it closer to the idea of objectifying others? Or is that the same thing? Curious what yall think
 
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I am sure that many of our Orthodox friends like @X Immigrant know the story of this Turkish Saint, but I felt the need to share it here in order to remember the story of our martyr, in case there are those who do not know, he is a man that everyone, regardless of their denomination, should read and know.


Saint Martyr Ahmet (1682): Ahmet Kalfa is the clerk of the grand accounting ledger of the Ottoman Empire. Ahmet has a young Orthodox Christian concubine of Russian origin. This concubine is very loyal to her faith and Ahmet allows her to attend church services.


On Sundays, after mass, the concubine returns home. While they were chatting, Ahmet noticed an indescribable musk smell coming from the concubine's mouth and asked the reason for this. At first, the concubine does not tell the source of the smell. Ahmet insists and finally the concubine tells him that this smell is caused by the blessed Communion Bread (Antidoron) she ate during the ritual and the blessed spring water she drank.


While chatting about the ritual, the concubine explains the principles of faith to Ahmet: “Our faith is a living faith. For us Christians, our God is Jesus Christ.


He is the Son of God. He became human and came down from heaven to save us from sin.


He performed countless miracles during his time in this world. If you want to know and keep in mind, the most important of these is that He was crucified by the Jews because He loved us and rose again on the third day. The resurrection of Jesus Christ is the most important event in human history. As Orthodox Christians, miracles continue today through the power of Jesus Christ.


All things are possible with Jesus Christ.”



Days pass after what he heard, and Ahmet is thinking deeply. The concubine's courage and what she shared about the ritual arouses Ahmet's curiosity.


He receives permission from Patriarch Iakovos I to attend the next service and he attends the liturgy at the Greek Orthodox church. During the ritual, Ahmet witnesses a vision. Everyone in the church except for himself is enlightened. This event affects Ahmet greatly: "The concubine was really right," he thinks. “The religion of the Christians is alive. How great is the joy I feel now!"


After these miracles, Ahmet was in a state of ecstasy because of what he saw, and he did not want any other proof to give up the Islamic religion and believe in Jesus Christ. He immediately returned home, his face shining with joy and a little confused.


Ahmet repented sincerely. Day by day, with the help of his Christian wife (formerly concubine), he gained unwavering faith in the resurrected Jesus Christ. His burning desire now was to become a Christian. He wanted to be baptized. When he went to the church of the Patriarchate, he wanted to be enlightened. Just as the heads of other Christians were enlightened.


During each service, while the Patriarch was blessing the congregation there, he wanted to be illuminated by that divine light shining from the Patriarch's fingers.


So one day, without any hesitation, full of joy, that fortunate person went to the priest of that region and told him that he wanted to be baptized. After the priest saw his sincerity and unwavering decision to become a Christian, he converted him and baptized him in the name of the Holy Trinity. After his baptism, he lived a virtuous life. With special joy he received communion, drank the consecrated water, and ate the communion bread.


Although he lived as a sincere Christian after his baptism and led a mysterious life, he remained a secret Christian until his martyrdom. Very few people knew about this incident. The priest, the Christian concubine, and perhaps a few other priests and Christians knew.


On a blessed day, the hour of great torture approached for Ahmet. At a meeting, while the Muslim magnates of Istanbul were discussing "which faith is the greatest in the world?", they also asked Ahmet. The fact that Ahmet was also present at that meeting is proof that he was not an ordinary Turkish Muslim, and we should accept it as such. He was a rich and distinguished person. He was an outstanding member of Istanbul society. As a matter of fact, the fact that his opinion was asked underlines the importance of this. So his answer was worth considering for them. But how could they know that he had converted and was looking at them from a different perspective?


The martyr, who loved God, destroyed the trap of Satan, the enemy of humanity, without any hesitation. “No, I will not be a traitor,” he said to himself. “I will not be Judas.” His heart no longer belonged to him. His heart now belonged to Jesus Christ. The one who was unjustly crucified for our salvation.


Even though none of those around him knew that he was a Christian, he shouted as loud as he could: “The greatest of all faiths is the Orthodox Faith!” When he confessed to being a Christian, his former co-religionists looked on as if they were struck by lightning.


While doing this, he was sure that he would attract the murderous anger of Muslims. By order of the local administrator there, they first arrested him, tortured him, and then beheaded him in a place called Keaphane Bahçe, on May 3, 1682.


And the faithful who witnessed all these events were so touched by it, that they declared Ahmed to be a saint of the Orthodox Church.
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While they were chatting, Ahmet noticed an indescribable musk smell coming from the concubine's mouth and asked the reason for this. At first, the concubine does not tell the source of the smell. Ahmet insists and finally the concubine tells him that this smell is caused by the blessed Communion Bread (Antidoron) she ate during the ritual and the blessed spring water she drank.
why was the smell so produced musky, and not pleasant?
 
why was the smell so produced musky, and not pleasant?
I dunno. It's just how the story is described in the book I took this from.
Ok. I like this story. I like it a lot. I think it is beautiful and poignant.

However, if a certain Puerto Rican or Mexican mentions something about 'slavissies' I won't be able to hold back.
Don't worry. I dislike anti-slavic sissies aswell.
 
Also this story has some alternatives, like in some other version the Muslim magnates are talking about what is the greatest thing in the world in a general sense and not only about religion. It actually gets a little funny. One of them says that his favorite thing in the world is eating Tavuklu Pilav (literally Chicken and Rice), the other says his favorite thing is beautiful women. While Ahmed just out of nowhere says the greatest thing is Orthodoxy. So unexpected and all.
 
It actually gets a little funny. One of them says that his favorite thing in the world is eating Tavuklu Pilav (literally Chicken and Rice), the other says his favorite thing is beautiful women. While Ahmed just out of nowhere says the greatest thing is Orthodoxy. So unexpected and all.
hmm >So, what do you guys want to get to eat after we finish this meeting? I was thinking chicken and rice sounded good.
[soy] ^I don't know, I might just head home to tend to my concubines, maybe one of them could prepare something for lunch later.
Giga
<Have you ever tasted the body and blood of Jesus Christ?
 
So I went to a movie event, it was in a Greek Orthodox church. Delicious food, the Kataifi for dessert was especially delicious. Anyways, the movie was called 'Beyond The Peak' and it was a really great film relating to the Serbian Orthodox Church. If only Spas were still here.
Did they steal your wallet too?
 
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