thread_prefix.19 General christian thread

[Aedra]

I don't really care for the physical world and le ebin anti jew thing that everyone here is not smart enough to comprehend because of epic left wing and right wing politicians telling you to pursue an unachieveable goal for the 9001th time. A mass murderer should be called what he is. He is using God as a weapon and violating the Third Commandment. He is a notorious liar and mass murderer. I don't care what he stands for the same way I don't care that Zelensky claims to stand for the west that he gets paid by. I hope they both lose personally.

Is the knife responsible for evil? We cut bread with knife, and with the knife we also spill human blood.

God indeed said you shall not kill. But He also said there is no love greater than laying down your life for your fellow friend. When the enemy threatens you yourself, you must turn the other cheek and show patience. But when the enemy threatens yours, your tradition, your religion, your family, your country, your mother, father, sister, brother, wife, etc..

Then that is when you have a duty to draw a sword and protect them. That's how I view the war in Ukraine. Russia will prevail.

 

[King of kyrgyzstan]

I am not friends with any mass murderers, including those elected to office. Those sent to war do what is asked of them by the physical world and its leaders. You protect your brother next to you in the army, not some homosexual notion of your flag and ideals at the end of the road. You will be called upon by your nation to do all sorts of things like jury duty, paying taxes, and the defense of the government should things get to that point at home. You render unto Caesar what is Caesar's, and you render unto God what is God's. You perform your service and go back home to where you do what God wishes and live out your life as He intended. Thoughts about "Oh the evil jews are corrupting the (already corrupted) world" do not matter in the world after now, and only focus your mind in an evil direction.
Why bother trying to help your neighbor in an evil world corrupted by jews? Why bother creating good works when it will be destroyed by the jews? Why should I marry and have kids and teach them in the scripture when the jews will always be there? It only leads you down a path of hatred and distrust for your fellow man. You may live in the world, but you must not be of the world. Its a pretty important phrase to live by, especially if you consider yourself a Christian, of any denomination.

Thats... Pretty Deep.... Dude.

 

[Aedra]

I am not friends with any mass murderers, including those elected to office. Those sent to war do what is asked of them by the physical world and its leaders. You protect your brother next to you in the army, not some homosexual notion of your flag and ideals at the end of the road. You will be called upon by your nation to do all sorts of things like jury duty, paying taxes, and the defense of the government should things get to that point at home. You render unto Caesar what is Caesar's, and you render unto God what is God's. You perform your service and go back home to where you do what God wishes and live out your life as He intended. Thoughts about "Oh the evil jews are corrupting the (already corrupted) world" do not matter in the world after now, and only focus your mind in an evil direction.
Why bother trying to help your neighbor in an evil world corrupted by jews? Why bother creating good works when it will be destroyed by the jews? Why should I marry and have kids and teach them in the scripture when the jews will always be there? It only leads you down a path of hatred and distrust for your fellow man. You may live in the world, but you must not be of the world. Its a pretty important phrase to live by, especially if you consider yourself a Christian, of any denomination.

Okay. I don't disagree with most of this. But aren't you being arrogant by making assumptions about someone else's salvation? Putin's in this case.

First, let me make something clear. While I support Russia in this war, I obviously don't see the Russian government as holy or perfect, nor do I see Putin as some saint. But I also acknowledge that for an Orthodox man like me, Russia is currently the best I got, because they are the only ones standing up for my faith while everyone else is letting the tyranny of modernism take over without protest. The thing I see as holy is the Russian Orthodox Church, that comes above anything else. You can think whatever you want about Putin and that's fine. I just disagree with the idea that he's a mass murderer, personally.

 

[Aedra]

(this is not to say putin or any other faggot you love is the best worldly person).

This whole argument falls apart because I literally just said I don't see the Russian government as holy nor do I see Putin as some saint. You are making assumptions about me. I see the Russian Church as holy and I am commanded to look at the words of my bishops, including Patriarch Kirill who referred to the war in Ukraine as a fratricidal war and declared soldiers who are dying on both sides to be martyrs. Not just Russians but also the Ukrainians. I don't understand what the issue is here. You think I approve of killing Ukrainians? Of course I fucking don't. Some things are done out of necessity and not because anyone wants them to happen.

 

[Aedra]

I talk carelessly to ascertain the real feelings of the person I am speaking/typing to. It is good that you and I agree that both parties have committed a sin. There is not a scenario in which either military and its government have not sinned, especially on behalf of territorial gain. Again, my hope is they both lose in their endeavors and that I will wake up one day to a ceasefire and the public execution of both leaders for the suffering they have put their people through for something so ephemeral as "I own this land now", as if hundreds of thousands of people have not laid claim to that very same land in the past.

All good points regardless. Sometimes I let my hatred consume me so your posts did serve as a reality check. Thanks.

 

[Nihilma]

I know this will be sort of derailing, but you are repeating a false historical narrative that largely comes from the backward projections of early modern philosophers who wanted to portray the middle ages in an overly violent and horrifying way because they wanted to make Christianity look bad. As that was the time when Christianity was most dominant. The medieval era was not particularly violent compared to the eras that came after it. The early modern era was far more violent and filled with instability. Most wars in the medieval era in contrast were small in scale and there was no universal conscription so wars were the profession of the elite, not the common folk.

If you asked me "when was the best time to be alive in France?" I would say during the reign of Saint Louis IX. And that was from 1226-1270. The golden age of the Kingdom of France. It was pretty stable compared to whatever your country has been since the French Revolution.

Stop shitting on your ancestors, you wouldn't be here without them.

I'm not shitting on my ancestors.
I'm plainly stating that death due to violent human interraction was statistically higher during the middle ages than now. I'm not saying life was necessarily worse.

On some aspects it was better. Modern men are way more depressed and anxious for example. Morality was also better. But both life expectency and violence, from the statistics we have, were just objectively worse.

Look I get the counter-attitude towards thr modern view of the middle ages. You hate it because people use it as an excuse to shit on christianity. And they say that everything was worse back then. It isn't a reason to go the complete 180° position and say that everything was better, because that to me is also absurd.

 

[X Immigrant]

Midnight office goes crazy.

 

[Aedra]

I'm not shitting on my ancestors.
I'm plainly stating that death due to violent human interraction was statistically higher during the middle ages than now. I'm not saying life was necessarily worse.

On some aspects it was better. Modern men are way more depressed and anxious for example. Morality was also better. But both life expectency and violence, from the statistics we have, were just objectively worse.

Look I get the counter-attitude towards thr modern view of the middle ages. You hate it because people use it as an excuse to shit on christianity. And they say that everything was worse back then. It isn't a reason to go the complete 180° position and say that everything was better, because that to me is also absurd.

Mostly nothing wrong with your post here. But life expectancy was in fact not worse. You see, in the middle ages, infant mortality was significantly higher, this brings down the average life expectancy. But if you made it past the age of 5, you would most likely see your 70's. This too, is an established fact. So people didn't drop dead in their 30's back then, that's absurd.

Old age isn’t a modern phenomenon – many people lived long enough to grow old in the olden days, too

There is a common misperception that long life spans in humans are very recent, and that no one in the past lived much beyond their 30s before now. This is not true. There is physical evidence that plenty of people in the past lived long lives — just as long as some people do today. Anthropology...

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I have studied these things, I know what I'm talking about. I genuinely believe the medieval era was the best time in all of human history. They (normies) call it the dark ages, I call it the Golden Ages.

 

[Nihilma]

Mostly nothing wrong with your post here. But life expectancy was in fact not worse. You see, in the middle ages, infant mortality was significantly higher, this brings down the average life expectancy. But if you made it past the age of 5, you would most likely see your 70's. This too, is an established fact. So people didn't drop dead in their 30's back then, that's absurd.

Old age isn’t a modern phenomenon – many people lived long enough to grow old in the olden days, too

There is a common misperception that long life spans in humans are very recent, and that no one in the past lived much beyond their 30s before now. This is not true. There is physical evidence that plenty of people in the past lived long lives — just as long as some people do today. Anthropology...

sc.edu

I have studied these things, I know what I'm talking about. I genuinely believe the medieval era was the best time in all of human history. They (normies) call it the dark ages, I call it the Golden Ages.

Oh yeah no that's not what I meant. I know that very well.
I mean a good example of this is J.S.Bach.
Nigga birthed 20 children, only 10 survived.

Overall modern medicine is a blessing for a lot of things, and it's quite incredible to see how far we've come in this field, for the best and the worst unfortunately. It's great knowing something like the black plague most likely cannot happen again.

But you're right people make the medieval times to be way more horrible than they are.

I'm just saying that the modern race-crime correlation statistics wouldn't hold up in medieval times, both way. Modern Africa is a horrible place to live in, but during the middle ages it was overall quite peaceful, especially around the sahel.
And medieval europe was a tad more violent than what it is now.

 

[X Immigrant]

The Renaissance mogs thougheverhoweverthelessbeit

 

[Aedra]

Daily reminder that the rainbow belongs to God and not to the sodomites.

 

[Fagon]

Daily reminder that the rainbow belongs to God and not to the sodomites.
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>even doe the pride flag represents the diversity of of the LGBTQ, like how we have faggots, and faggots, and faggots, and faggots, and also faggots!

 

[BLACKHAWK]

Morality was also better.

Like brning a woman for wearing man clothes. yore fucking disabled bro.
or was morality in using the church to gain excuse to invade wales flanders byzantium naples bohemia italy slavs and rob everything from there
i guess its moral to rape women as well and amass treasury for the sake of yeshua who protects plebs from the sword. ofc he likes protecting everyone except the low class who are written about in history books.

 

[Nihilma]

Like brning a woman for wearing man clothes. yore fucking disabled bro.
or was morality in using the church to gain excuse to invade wales flanders byzantium naples bohemia italy slavs and rob everything from there
i guess its moral to rape women as well and amass treasury for the sake of yeshua who protects plebs from the sword. ofc he likes protecting everyone except the low class who are written about in history books.

Yet another blacked.crow brimtake.
Ima not answer that, Aedra is better placed than me on this subject.

Doughtheless I'm happy to see you keeping it real with the Ohio ESL language fr fr

 

[BLACKHAWK]

Ima not answer that, Aedra is better placed than me on this subject.

(y)

 

[BLACKHAWK]

"some other guy will answer about fictional characters i dont know de lore of my own faith"

niggas christian will really say this shit and get angry at being called Cuck NPC.

 

[Nihilma]

"some other guy will answer about fictional characters i dont know de lore of my own faith"

niggas christian will really say this shit and get angry at being called Cuck NPC.

Last time I answered your claims about hedonism, all you could come up with was a tranny react. And then you call me a coward.

The Irony, audacity and hypocrisy of blacked sissies is beyond me

Nigga I'm taking a nap in 2 mns I don't wanna answer you because I've got better stuff to do rn then to talk to a queen of spades

 

[Aedra]

Like brning a woman for wearing man clothes. yore fucking disabled bro.

Witch burnings happened in the early modern era, not the middle ages. The Church in the middle ages taught that witches did not exist to begin with. See Augustine's take on the matter for more. The secular courts were also more likely to engage in burning at the stake compared to ecclesiastical courts. In Spain there were hardly any burnings due to the Spanish Inquisition not caring about the matter for example.

or was morality in using the church to gain excuse to invade wales flanders byzantium naples bohemia italy slavs and rob everything from there

Pretty silly of you to pin the blame for the personal ambitions of Justinian on the Church. The Church does not equal the Byzantine Empire.

i guess its moral to rape women as well and amass treasury for the sake of yeshua who protects plebs from the sword. ofc he likes protecting everyone except the low class who are written about in history books.

Tell me when the church ever approved of raping women or even simply killing during war time. The Orthodox Church considers killing even in war to be sinful (while still acknowledging war to be necessary in many circumstances). The church has protected the lower classes for all of its history, in Russia the clergy would push for freeing slaves, helping them out and the like. Hospitals where the poor and sick were treated with no charge for it appeared first in Byzantium and later on in western Europe and even the crusader Kingdom of Jerusalem. The Ancient Romans in contrast had no such thing and saw no value in protecting the weak.

 

[BLACKHAWK]

d in the early modern era,

you mean you turkish mutt dont even know of the MOST FAMOUS christian characters?
do you think I meant a witch salem trial?
are you that fucking stupid

to pin the blame for the personal ambitions of Justinian on the Church.

who
bruh nigga what
what the fuck
what are you talking about

The Orthodox Church considers killing even in war to be sinful.

the only two entities that can be called to vouch for orthodox church patriarchy are Moscow and Constantinople. Yeah, russian history is very peaceful especially towards fellow christins
Since you literally misunderstood anything I mentioned, I will elaborate that I do refer to the rape comitted after siege of Nyköping and the rape of french women in 19th occpation. Both of which are never condemned or any kind of crime comitted by the patriarch of Orthodox Church.
not that it matters becase "modern times" aren't christian apparently.

It doesn't matter, LOTR fans are Christians, both are equal in their solidarity. Only made up characters matter and fanfic canon is what it's all about. Real people don't matter to christians.

 

[BLACKHAWK]

I am only arguing with retard for my entertainment.