Exerpt from the Bible I don't agree with

Malzy_Moo said:
>faith without works le bad even though the Bible literally says that man’s works are dirty rags
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But we are all as an unclean thing, and all our righteousnesses are as filthy rags; and we all do fade as a leaf; and our iniquities, like the wind, have taken us away. - Isaiah 64:6
 
encrusting_acro said:
I find myself conflicting that I try to be a good Catholic/Christian--I participate in mass every Sunday--yet I am a slave to sin and such sexual fantasies. I feel like I'm only doing the bare minimum to serve God--I don't pray to Him before eating or bed, I only pray when I am in need of something. I haven't gone to confession in over two years but I feel like I should go. God knows our hearts, and I feel like my heart isn't in the right place.
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>why am i, a being fundamentally inclined towards sin, inclined towards sin?
blame adam
 
Malzy_Moo said:
>faith without works le bad even though the Bible literally says that man’s works are dirty rags
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is the point of that verse not that your works are filthy rags compared to divine works, and a reminder that your salvation cannot be earned through them? I don't see how that's contradictory to the idea that if you produce no works your faith is dead. I am not saying this as a definitive statement doe, I was more or less just explaining Acro's point because nagolbud didn't get it. Which I still don't think he does.
 
Hagon said:
is the point of that verse not that your works are filthy rags compared to divine works, and a reminder that your salvation cannot be earned through them? I don't see how that's contradictory to the idea that if you produce no works your faith is dead. I am not saying this as a definitive statement doe, I was more or less just explaining Acro's point because nagolbud didn't get it. Which I still don't think he does.
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A work done by a man is still a work, you can convert all the people in the world but without faith it means nothing.
 
Hagon said:
is the point of that verse not that your works are filthy rags compared to divine works, and a reminder that your salvation cannot be earned through them? I don't see how that's contradictory to the idea that if you produce no works your faith is dead. I am not saying this as a definitive statement doe, I was more or less just explaining Acro's point because nagolbud didn't get it. Which I still don't think he does.
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I do get it. And his point isn't scripture based. You can have salvation and go to heaven NEVER doing a single good work in your life. End of story. That's Biblical salvation, regardless of what your goofy ass religion or your pride says.

Jesus Christ paid the debt in FULL. There is NOTHING you can do to earn salvation.
On the day of judgement you get into heaven because Jesus Christ cloaks you in HIS righteousness, not your fuckin shitty ass dirty tampon works.
 
Malzy_Moo said:
A work done by a man is still a work, you can convert all the people in the world but without faith it means nothing.
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I don't disagree with this or see how it contradicts anything I said. The point is not that salvation is earned, or that works supersede faith in any way. I'm bad with words so I might not be able to get myself across well, but my point, and understanding of it, is that even if your works are completely insignificant and worthless compared to what God can do, how can someone who never chooses to do things for the sake of others truly have faith? How can someone who never does a loving act claim to be loving?
nagolbud said:
I do get it. And his point isn't scripture based.
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You say this and then still don't get what I mean and repeat the same thing you've said like 5 times now, with some aggressive ramblings thrown in saying things I don't disagree with as if I'm going to be offended by them while completely missing the point. I'm ready for the 6th time though.
 
Hagon said:
I don't disagree with this or see how it contradicts anything I said. The point is not that salvation is earned, or that works supersede faith in any way. I'm bad with words so I might not be able to get myself across well, but my point, and understanding of it, is that even if your works are completely insignificant and worthless compared to what God can do, how can someone who never chooses to do things for the sake of others truly have faith? How can someone who never does a loving act claim to be loving?

You say this and then still don't get what I mean and repeat the same thing you've said like 5 times now, with some aggressive ramblings thrown in saying things I don't disagree with as if I'm going to be offended by them while completely missing the point. I'm ready for the 6th time though.
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Not aggressive or angry... have to repeat the same thing because it gets ignored. Bible is very clear.
 
Hagon said:
I don't disagree with this or see how it contradicts anything I said. The point is not that salvation is earned, or that works supersede faith in any way. I'm bad with words so I might not be able to get myself across well, but my point, and understanding of it, is that even if your works are completely insignificant and worthless compared to what God can do, how can someone who never chooses to do things for the sake of others truly have faith? How can someone who never does a loving act claim to be loving?

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Yeah voluntary work is le good but doing them thinking it will save you is le bad
 
encrusting_acro said:
"Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as unto the Lord. For the husband is the head of the wife, even as Christ is the head of the church: and he is the saviour of the body. Therefore as the church is subject unto Christ, so let the wives be to their own husbands in every thing." --Ephesians 5:22-24

Now, I'm not gonna go on a rant about "how that's sexist" and "oppressing women" and shit. I think gender politics and "the battle of the sexes" is stupid.

But what if I want to submit to my wife? Why do  I have to be the head of the family? What if I  want my wife to be the head? What if I want my wife to be slightly older than me, make more money, be taller than me, etc? What if I want her to boss me around and tell me what to do, and when I step out of line, hit me? What if I want her to dominate me in bed? Why can't I be the one submitting?
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Kill yourself nigger
 
FAGGOT!!!!!!!!!!!! said:
"Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as unto the Lord. For the husband is the head of the wife, even as Christ is the head of the church: and he is the saviour of the body. Therefore as the church is subject unto Christ, so let the wives be to their own husbands in every thing." --Ephesians 5:22-24

Now, I'm not gonna go on a rant about "how that's sexist" and "oppressing women" and shit. I think gender politics and "the battle of the sexes" is stupid.

But what if I want to submit to my wife? Why do  I have to be the head of the family? What if I  want my wife to be the head? What if I want my wife to be slightly older than me, make more money, be taller than me, etc? What if I want her to boss me around and tell me what to do, and when I step out of line, hit me? What if I want her to dominate me in bed? Why can't I be the one submitting?
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Are you Nate IRL
 
FAGGOT!!!!!!!!!!!! said:
"Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as unto the Lord. For the husband is the head of the wife, even as Christ is the head of the church: and he is the saviour of the body. Therefore as the church is subject unto Christ, so let the wives be to their own husbands in every thing." --Ephesians 5:22-24

Now, I'm not gonna go on a rant about "how that's sexist" and "oppressing women" and shit. I think gender politics and "the battle of the sexes" is stupid.

But what if I want to submit to my wife? Why do  I have to be the head of the family? What if I  want my wife to be the head? What if I want my wife to be slightly older than me, make more money, be taller than me, etc? What if I want her to boss me around and tell me what to do, and when I step out of line, hit me? What if I want her to dominate me in bed? Why can't I be the one submitting?
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STEVEGROOMERS..
 
i'm gonna say, through willpower and genuine love and faith in christ, the works by comparison would be meaningless and only serve as one of the signs
 
FAGGOT!!!!!!!!!!!! said:
"Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as unto the Lord. For the husband is the head of the wife, even as Christ is the head of the church: and he is the saviour of the body. Therefore as the church is subject unto Christ, so let the wives be to their own husbands in every thing." --Ephesians 5:22-24

Now, I'm not gonna go on a rant about "how that's sexist" and "oppressing women" and shit. I think gender politics and "the battle of the sexes" is stupid.

But what if I want to submit to my wife? Why do  I have to be the head of the family? What if I  want my wife to be the head? What if I want my wife to be slightly older than me, make more money, be taller than me, etc? What if I want her to boss me around and tell me what to do, and when I step out of line, hit me? What if I want her to dominate me in bed? Why can't I be the one submitting?
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See, this is why nobody likes you
 

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