Autism do you believe "high-functioning" autism is real and can you grow out of it

Soygoy said:
Autism is real. I've had a while to think about this and I can confirm that Autism is real, but I wouldn't classify it as a mental disorder. Autism is a set of neurodivergent behaviour patterns, or simply put is neurodivergency. Autism is a completely normal thing to have, it is not disorderly. Psychiatrists are evil particularly because I suppose, they can identify a "mental disorder" in anyone and everyone so that they can sell them pills that they don't need, like with depression for example, which is extremely common. However these medications may genuinely help with some people, like with schizophrenia, for example.

It's important to note however that the discussion is about the existence of autism and as someone with autism, I can confirm that autism exists, but from Aedra's point of view, the discussion is primarily about the existence of mental disorders, not the existence of autism. If we simply remove autism from being a "mental disorder" and treat it not as a disability, but a different ability, then I suppose the legitimacy of mental disorders can be put into question. What I would say however is that the psychology is correct and the behavioural patterns that these people have are definitely noticeable and perhaps differ from the norm, whether or not that makes it a "disorder" is unclear to me. I would say that schizophrenia is a disorder, perhaps bipolar too, are they not? Something like Tourettes, ADHD, OCD or autism is easy to live with, but someone with schizophrenia or bipolarity may have a harder time living.

I feel like at some point we're playing semantics though, for example, mental differences in behavioural patterns exist, but they are not "disabilities, illnesses or disorders" they're more like mental differences which everyone has, which genes may contribute a factor in and these differences need not be cured or "treated". To what length "mental disorders do not exist" is to be explored, for example, we're not saying that autism isn't real or schizophrenia isn't real or ADHD isn't real but rather that they are real, but they're normal and they're not disorders, theres nothing wrong with you. I would say that we should allow the labels for them to exist and instead call them neurodevelopmental differences and not disorders.

Essentially yeah, autism is real, it's normal, but it's classification as a mental disorder is false.
IMO though if normies think theres something wrong with me they give me free money so why should I complain
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Not reading that.
 
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Also: you can't grow out of Autism; it's congenital and has a genetic component. However, you can hide it; some people do it more well than others. If you "grew out" of your autism, you were likely misdiagnosed in the first place.

Actually, scratch that. Autism, and basically other mental/psychological condition, is just a bunch of symptoms that we give a name to when they occur together. Sorta like false pattern recognition.
 
NT said:
or what used to be called asperger's.
i got diagnosed at 15 and now that i'm 19 i'm still having a hard time determining whether or not it's a bullshit label. i had a fairly normal childhood all the way to the end of middle school.
my last year of middle school got cut short due to covid and looking back it feels like something happened between march and october of 2020. when i started high school (a month late because i was in an outpatient treatment thing) everything kinda fell apart and i basically lost my ability to function normally. i forgot how to have conversations, how to read people, and started becoming obsessed with my hobbies as a way to cope. there's lots of other le autism symptoms in there but i dont feel like listing them.
so maybe the giant break made me lose my skills. "late onset" autism isnt a real thing of course...
and i ended up getting diagnosed with ASD level 1 (le high functioning) in november of 2020. i stayed miserable for most of high school, until my senior year where i started acting more like a normal (if somewhat quiet and timid) kid. i dont even acknowledge the autism anymore and ive never used it as a crutch or excuse.
im wondering if maybe i got misdiagnosed and it was a teenage phase i guess
sorry for the word salad
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No, it is not real, because it is not rigorously defined. If it meant getting a certain score on a certain test that has high test-retest reliability, I would believe in it, but doctors diagnose literally anyone who meets a few criteria as being autistic. I could be diagnosed by some asshole doctor if I wanted to, but every doctor knows not to play with me like that because I would give them a clean right hook for such an insult.

"High functioning autists" are quickly becoming the most narcissistic group in society, even more than Black people. I regret any part I played in the "Nordic Autism" meme. Autism is bad for those afflicted by it and those around the afflicted. But now people who are just neurotics without enough autism symptoms to really be classified as such are thinking of themselves as autists, which is also annoying.
 
Lism said:
No, it is not real, because it is not rigorously defined. If it meant getting a certain score on a certain test that has high test-retest reliability, I would believe in it, but doctors diagnose literally anyone who meets a few criteria as being autistic. I could be diagnosed by some asshole doctor if I wanted to, but every doctor knows not to play with me like that because I would give them a clean right hook for such an insult.

"High functioning autists" are quickly becoming the most narcissistic group in society, even more than Black people. I regret any part I played in the "Nordic Autism" meme. Autism is bad for those afflicted by it and those around the afflicted. But now people who are just neurotics without enough autism symptoms to really be classified as such are thinking of themselves as autists, which is also annoying.
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my mom drank liquor
and smoked weed
when she was pregnant with me
my forehead bulges out
and i have a cleft palate
i feel really confused
all the time
with everything
i think i have down's syndrome
i don't have the brains to have anything
resembling an intelligent conversation
i don't have the motivation
to do anything but watch television
because i wasn't fully toilet trained
until i was 17 years old
when i try to read a book
i just end up staring at a block of text
without understanding it at all
my perception is so limited and small
that i go into detail
about the tiniest bit of knowledge
that i have in my brain
then when i die
i'll go to heaven retarded
and they'll laugh at me there too
i don't know how to walk normal
because i can't stop thinking
about my mechanical legs
that suspend my disgusting abdomen
up off the ground
like a sack of filthy potatoes
on display
for everyone to laugh at
a sack of ugly potatoes
on stilts
and i know i have autism
and i'm legally blind too
and i have that weird fat puffy face
and people joke that i'm "mentally challenged"
mentally challenged? fuck off
i'm a retard!
a total retard that needs lethal injection
they should sterilize my entire family tree

nordic behavior?
 
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