thread_prefix.19 General christian thread

[nagolbud]

I don't understand how you think I'm misjudging the apostles, when the tradition not from the scripture was started from them. Like Lent, for example. If they promoted these traditions, and it isn't included in the Bible, what conclusion would you make from that?

That I don't need to give a fuck about lent. We live in the age of grace. If it wasn't put in God's word. Why the fuck would I care about it.

 

[nagolbud]

"All scripture is given by inspiration of God"
You literally posted it yourself, you cannot read. Also I never said the Bible isn't the word of God, I said the Bible is the INSPIRED Word of God, meaning it is both divine and human. As I said in my original paragraph.
You strawmanned me again, bravo. I guess sometimes you cannot use anything else than logical fallascies to support your view

"Yeah God is perfect and created the entire realm, but not good enough to maintain His word in a book." You believe in a weak fake asf god. I believe in the real living God who has no problem preserving his word in the Bible.

How can it be Divine and human? Humans aren't divine. It's either the WORD OF GOD, or it's NOT.

You either have faith in Jesus Christ and the Bible, or you have faith in men and their word / traditions. They aren't mixable.

 

[Nihilma]

"Yeah God is perfect and created the entire realm, but not good enough to maintain His word in a book." You believe in a weak fake asf god. I believe in the real living God who has no problem preserving his word in the Bible.

Strawmanned me again. Stop using logical fallacies and answer my claims instead of dodging around like you do.
I answered using the scripture YOU QUOTED YOURSELF.

God DID preserve his Word in the Bible, which isn't a Book, but a compilation of books from different authors from different times, who all wrote what God inspired them with their own humanity. God reveals himself through the Bible and through Christ, which is both perfectly divine and perfectly human.

 

[X Immigrant]

I get it, you don't believe the Bible is the word of God. You trust man's word and man's traditions over the Bible. That is religion.

All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness. 2 Timothy 3:16

I am a Bible Thumper Chud. I don't need some fag in a dress to tell me how to think or how to interpret the Bible. I have Jesus Christ and the Holy Spirit.

That I don't need to give a fuck about lent. We live in the age of grace. If it wasn't put in God's word. Why the fuck would I care about it.

Now here's what I find interesting. If you don't trust that things done by the apostles were inspired by and the result of God's teachings, then how can you believe the Bible's inspired by and transcribed from God and not just made up by those same apostles?

 

[nagolbud]

Strawmanned me again. Stop using logical fallacies and answer my claims instead of dodging around like you do.
I answered using the scripture YOU QUOTED YOURSELF.

God DID preserve his Word in the Bible, which isn't a Book, but a compilation of books from different authors from different times, who all wrote what God inspired them with their own humanity. God reveals himself through the Bible and through Christ, which is both perfectly divine and perfectly human.

This is projection. 100%. I don't think you even understand what strawman fallacies are... you just use it as a form of manipulative projection... which is quite typical of religious christians.

 

[soy beer]

Not a believer. I'd like to change that, but I can't force it.

 

[nagolbud]

Now here's what I find interesting. If you don't trust that things done by the apostles were inspired by and the result of God's teachings, then how can you believe the Bible's inspired by and transcribed from God and not just made up by those same apostles?

Because I'm not the one believing man over the Bible. That's you.

 

[X Immigrant]

Because I'm not the one believing man over the Bible. That's you.

But the Bible was transcribed by those same men you don't believe. You didn't answer the question.

 

[nagolbud]

Not a believer. I'd like to change that, but I can't force it.

One prayer bro. That's all it takes.

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[nagolbud]

But the Bible was transcribed by those same men you don't believe. You didn't answer the question.

If it was the word of God it would be in the Bible. Pretty simple concept. Manipulate and twist however you want....

 

[Nihilma]

This is projection. 100%. I don't think you even understand what strawman fallacies are... you just use it as a form of manipulative projection...

Ad hominem. You STILL haven't answerd my claims and instead attack my person. Bravo once again

 

[princessparkles]

Not a believer. I'd like to change that, but I can't force it.

it takes a lot of searching and sifting and trying to figure out where that one source of emptiness in your life spiritually comes from

and then you try and soothe that with faith and you kind of just go from there. i find that you can’t really learn faith from man you actually have to try and talk to God and make a connection

just remember if you take one step He will come running to find you!! religion doesn’t have to be the first step it’s intimidating at first - you’re right in saying you can’t force it

 

[nagolbud]

Ad hominem. You STILL haven't answerd my claims and instead attack my person. Bravo once again

What fuckin' claims, now you're gonna play victim bro? You're gaslighting, projecting, and acting like a socio narcissist. The fuck is your point.. say it. Stop crying.

 

[X Immigrant]

If it was the word of God it would be in the Bible. Pretty simple concept. Manipulate and twist however you want....

And yet the apostles enforced those traditions because they would have thought it was the word of God. They thought the Bible was the word of God too. So they could have put it in, but it may have been lost. Or they simply didn't find the need to, expecting people would follow tradition enforced by the same people who compiled the scripture.

 

[nagolbud]

it takes a lot of searching and sifting and trying to figure out where that one source of emptiness in your life spiritually comes from

and then you try and soothe that with faith and you kind of just go from there. i find that you can’t really learn faith from man you actually have to try and talk to God and make a connection

just remember if you take one step He will come running to find you!! religion doesn’t have to be the first step it’s intimidating at first - you’re right in saying you can’t force it

Religion will never save anyone. You are right about a lot of what you've written, but you will never find salvation in religion.

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[nagolbud]

And yet the apostles enforced those traditions because they would have thought it was the word of God. They thought the Bible was the word of God too. So they could have put it in, but it may have been lost. Or they simply didn't find the need to, expecting people would follow tradition enforced by the same people who compiled the scripture.

No, it's not in the Bible because it's not the word of God. It's that simple. Traditions of men were left behind for the doctrine of Jesus Christ. End of story. No religion or traditions required. NONE.

 

[princessparkles]

Religion will never save anyone. You are right about a lot of what you've written, but you will never find salvation in religion.

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thats what i said silly
stop forcing your own sites on people you’re not a scholar nor someone in the position to spread info

 

[Nihilma]

What fuckin' claims, now you're gonna play victim bro? You're gaslighting, projecting, and acting like a socio narcissist. The fuck is your point.. say it. Stop crying.

My claims is that your view of the Bible is wrong because you see the Bible as a single book that is perfectly written word for word by God, where as it is actually the INSPIRED Word of God, meaning that God inspired his Word to men who then wrote the Bible with theiir humanity, meaning that the Bible isn't a single book but a compilation of books that are both divine and human in nature, just as Jesus who is fully God and fully man

 

[X Immigrant]

No, it's not in the Bible because it's not the word of God. It's that simple. Traditions of men were left behind for the doctrine of Jesus Christ. End of story. No religion or traditions required. NONE.

So, you're saying that the apostles enforced something they didn't think was the tradition of God?

 

[nagolbud]

You don't think it'd be easier to just be some religious pastor faggot? Beg for money from the poor just to larp luke warm messages... why would I take the harder route? Work a job and still preach the Biblical Gospel... when I could just wear a dress and larp from the pulpit.... why does one decide to not follow any religion and simply just the Bible. All of your religions have manipulative and monetary gains, control, power, and forced obedience of its followers... how do you not see the difference in doctrines?