thread_prefix.19 General christian thread

[nagolbud]

No, he's bringing up the devils as to why faith without works is absurd and wouldn't work.

Ahhh so you claim the Bible contradicts itself, and in place trust your men at the Orthodix? So you're admitting you hate the Bible, don't believe it, and trust men? Just admit it.. say it out loud, makes it much easier instead of you dancing around pretending to be a Bible believer when in fact you trust the Orthodix more than the Bible.

 

[X Immigrant]

Ahhh so you claim the Bible contradicts itself, and in place trust your men at the Orthodix? So you're admitting you hate the Bible, don't believe it, and trust men? Just admit it..

No, I'm not saying the Bible contradicts itself. Tradition is the same as scripture. And that's what James said, not me.

 

[nagolbud]

No, I'm not saying the Bible contradicts itself. Tradition is the same as scripture. And that's what James said, not me.

Men's traditions are the same as scripture? YIKES.

 

[X Immigrant]

Men's traditions are the same as scripture? YIKES.

God's traditions.

 

[nagolbud]

6 He answered and said unto them, Well hath Esaias prophesied of you hypocrites, as it is written, This people honoureth me with their lips, but their heart is far from me.

7 Howbeit in vain do they worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men.

8 For laying aside the commandment of God, ye hold the tradition of men, as the washing of pots and cups: and many other such like things ye do.

9 And he said unto them, Full well ye reject the commandment of God, that ye may keep your own tradition.

 

[nagolbud]

God's traditions.

If it's not found in scripture where do these traditions of God come from? The "Church" ? And where did they get it?

 

[X Immigrant]

>howbeit
It's real

God's traditions.

 

[X Immigrant]

If it's not found in scripture where do these traditions of God come from?

From Jesus who taught the apostles, who followed his traditions as we see in Peter, who taught the people, who followed those traditions as seen in early house churches.

 

[nagolbud]

>howbeit
It's real

God's traditions.

If it's not found in scripture where do these traditions of God come from? The "Church" ? And where did they get it?

 

[nagolbud]

From Jesus who taught the apostles, who followed his traditions as we see in Peter, who taught the people, who followed those traditions as seen in early house churches.

Then it would be in the scripture... otherwise it's just hearsay from some random dude aka the TRADITIONS OF MEN... If it's not found in scripture where do these traditions of God come from?

 

[X Immigrant]

Then it would be in the scripture... otherwise it's just hearsay from some random dude...

You can't have expected the apostles to have written everything down. Well, it wouldn't matter, you would have just removed those specific verses and books about it like protfags do.

 

[nagolbud]

You can't have expected the apostles to have written everything down. Well, it wouldn't matter, you would have just removed those specific verses and books about it like protfags do.

So once again you admit the Bible is not the word of God and you trust random dudes in dresses over the Bible. Just admit you don't believe the Bible.

It would be in the scripture... otherwise it's just hearsay from some random dude aka the TRADITIONS OF MEN... If it's not found in scripture where do these traditions of God come from?

 

[X Immigrant]

So once again you admit the Bible is not the word of God

No, I didn't.

and you trust random dudes in dresses over the Bible.

I trust the traditions of God as equally as I do the scripture.

It would be in the scripture... otherwise it's just hearsay from some random dude aka the TRADITIONS OF MEN... If it's not found in scripture where do these traditions of God come from?

Repeating yourself...prime protfag behavior.

 

[nagolbud]

You can't answer the question honestly...
If it's not found in scripture where do these traditions of God come from?

 

[X Immigrant]

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You can't answer the question honestly...
If it's not found in scripture where do these traditions of God come from?

Retarded image. God is a clear communicator. Are men? They made the scripture.

 

[nagolbud]

You can't answer the question honestly...
If it's not found in scripture where do these traditions of God come from?

 

[X Immigrant]

From God.

 

[nagolbud]

Retarded image. God is a clear communicator. Are men? They made the scripture.

So it's not the word of God? You just admitted that you do not believe the Bible is the word of God, therefor you are not a Bible believer.

"All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness" 2 Timothy 3:16​

 

[nagolbud]

From God.

How did God give you these traditions if they are not in the Bible?

All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness 2 Timothy 3:16

 

[Nihilma]

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You can't answer the question honestly...
If it's not found in scripture where do these traditions of God come from?

The Bible is not a book, it is made up of multiple books.
Hence why people aren't always clear on what is scripture and what isn't.

The cannon of the old testament wasn't clear for a long time, and even during the times of jesus, there was debate among the jews about the last part of the TaNaKh, aka the Ketouvim, as for what is inspired or not. This is the big difference between muslims and christians.
Muslims believe the Quran to be the Word of God in a way that makes arabic a holy language, because allah literally gave to muhammad a word for word transcription of the quran., of his Word

Christians believe that the bible is both divine and human, as Jesus, who is the Word of God. There's incredible parallels here if one digs a bit.
That is, because the bible isn't the literal Word of God, it is the "inspired" Word of God, and God can speak through men by his inspiration elsewhere than the Bible. But the Bible is the center of tradition, the center of God's inspired revelation.

This is why we can also read the Bible in different languages, why we can read metaphors and allegories into the text. When John saw in his revelation that "The dragon stood on the shore of the sea. And I saw a beast coming out of the sea. It had ten horns and seven heads, with ten crowns on its horns, and on each head a blasphemous name.", it probably doesn't mean that a literal beast with literally ten horns came out of the sea.