What do you think of berbers?

Berbers not white but they do have heavy European admixture. In fact, all evidence points to the Berber languages being introduced to North Africa during the massive Cardial Ware invasion from Europe which brought the Neolithic to that region. They also have Steppe ancestry, it maxes out around 10% and is either from Bell Beakers or Roman colonists (Romans had huge amounts of colonies in this area)
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Also, in 19th and early 20th century it was well known among anthropologists that Berbers had a unique European component. I know many French people noted the European element in North Africans and particularly among Atlas Berbers. Berbers were also friendlier with the French than the Arabs were. The Germans also recognized an Aryan strain in Berbers.

Late Neolithic Morocco is more Euro-Neolithic than modern North Africa:
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Lism said:
Berbers not white but they do have heavy European admixture. In fact, all evidence points to the Berber languages being introduced to North Africa during the massive Cardial Ware invasion from Europe which brought the Neolithic to that region. They also have Steppe ancestry, it maxes out around 10% and is either from Bell Beakers or Roman colonists (Romans had huge amounts of colonies in this area)
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Also, in 19th and early 20th century it was well known among anthropologists that Berbers had a unique European component. I know many French people noted the European element in North Africans and particularly among Atlas Berbers. Berbers were also friendlier with the French than the Arabs were. The Germans also recognized an Aryan strain in Berbers.

Late Neolithic Morocco is more Euro-Neolithic than modern North Africa:
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Berbers are essentially half white, including the riffian Berbers of today (the native canary islanders used to be very related to riffian Berbers but never converted to Islam, nowadays the average canarian has around 10% Iberomaurusian due to the Berbers that lived there, what’s interesting though is that they still maintain the same percentage of western hunter gatherer and steppe despite gaining that much Iberomaurusian) this is combined with the fact that the majority of the remaining non-white DNA they have is still very closely related to the Caucasian peoples(like Iberomaurusian and natufian) which makes some of them look white, even if they aren’t genetically white
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FerdinandDist said:
Berbers are essentially half white, including the riffian Berbers of today (the native canary islanders used to be very related to riffian Berbers but never converted to Islam, nowadays the average canarian has around 10% Iberomaurusian due to the Berbers that lived there, what’s interesting though is that they still maintain the same percentage of western hunter gatherer and steppe despite gaining that much Iberomaurusian) this is combined with the fact that the majority of the remaining non-white DNA they have is still very closely related to the Caucasian peoples(like Iberomaurusian and natufian) which makes some of them look white, even if they aren’t genetically white View attachment 18637
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Btw this is illustrativeDNA if you were wondering, it does a comprehensive test on your Stone Age DNA makeup, I already did mines
 
Lism said:
Berbers not white but they do have heavy European admixture. In fact, all evidence points to the Berber languages being introduced to North Africa during the massive Cardial Ware invasion from Europe which brought the Neolithic to that region. They also have Steppe ancestry, it maxes out around 10% and is either from Bell Beakers or Roman colonists (Romans had huge amounts of colonies in this area)
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Also, in 19th and early 20th century it was well known among anthropologists that Berbers had a unique European component. I know many French people noted the European element in North Africans and particularly among Atlas Berbers. Berbers were also friendlier with the French than the Arabs were. The Germans also recognized an Aryan strain in Berbers.

Late Neolithic Morocco is more Euro-Neolithic than modern North Africa:
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also the Arabs the French ruled were more white than Berbers thoughever (Levantine peoples)
 
Lism said:
No, please see the graph. Arabs clearly have less EEF ancestry more Natufian ancestry
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Yes but levantines specifically are the whitest MENA group, Lebanese specifically, zagros itself is mostly white, but around 15% non-Eurasian (Caucasus hunter gatherer is around 5% non-Eurasian)
 

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FerdinandDist said:
Yes but levantines specifically are the whitest MENA group, Lebanese specifically, zagros itself is mostly white, but around 15% non-Eurasian (Caucasus hunter gatherer is around 5% non-Eurasian)
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So while yes they may have less EEF compared to Berbers, they still have more Eurasian DNA as a whole
 
FerdinandDist said:
Yes but levantines specifically are the whitest MENA group, Lebanese specifically, zagros itself is mostly white, but around 15% non-Eurasian (Caucasus hunter gatherer is around 5% non-Eurasian)
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The reason the Lebanese are so "white" is because they have high EEF ancestry relative to more southerly Arabs. The EEFs invaded the levant too and diluted the Natufian ancestry. Steppe ancestry is interestingly also present there, presumably from Sea People? I would still call the "hairy race" as I have come accustomed to calling it, whiter than Levantines. The Hairy Race is basically peoples inhabiting the Armenian Highlands + Iranians to some extent. These people are really hairy, it's unreal

CHG is 0% Non-Eurasian. Their basal component comes from within Eurasia, meanwhile the basal component of Natufians/PPNB at least partially comes from North Africa
 
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Lism said:
The reason the Lebanese are so "white" is because they have high EEF ancestry relative to more southerly Arabs. The EEFs invaded the levant too and diluted the Natufian ancestry. Steppe ancestry is interestingly also present there, presumably from Sea People? I would still call the "hairy race" as I have come accustomed to calling it, whiter than Levantines. The Hairy Race is basically peoples inhabiting the Armenian Highlands + Iranians to some extent. These people are really hairy, it's unreal

CHG is 0% Non-Eurasian. Their basal component comes from within Eurasia, meanwhile the basal component of Natufians/PPNB at least partially comes from North Africa
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you mean caucasians? Or specifically Armenians and Iranians (so not people like circassians or ossetians etc….)
 
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