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baqqrih said:
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>All Scripture is breathed out by God and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, and for training in righteousness, that the man of God may be complete, equipped for every good work. (Second Epistle to Timothy, 3:16-17)
Since we see scripture as God's infallible word, and He's here saying that it makes us complete, we wouldn't need anything more, as, by being complete through adherence to scripture, you're already at 100%, so, according to God, from this alone are you destined for eternal salvation (meaning there isn't a need for good deed points). I'm pretty sure the guy in the OP video is also just going insane for no reason, as I don't believe that in Islam there's a legitimate focus on this, either; of stacking good deed multipliers so you can get the big quadrillion jackpot from your prayer.
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>Man of God may be complete, equipped for every good work
Would imply that the Scriptures make us complete for good work, not complete as a whole. What makes us complete is Christ, his sacrifice, his sacraments and therefore his union to us, to God, through the Church.
Also as said we ain't even all agreeing on what is scripture and what isn't.
You can't see Scripture as this standalone feature of the faith, it is PART of the faith.
The bible is part of tradition, it is the center of tradition, but the Bible without tradition, therefore without episcopal authority and succession, is in and of itself a book written in a different language to us.

Because as I argue, the singular words written in the Bible are meaningless in themselves. This is not the quran. The versions of most Old Testament books we have are not even the originals, the earliest version we have of them are copies of copies of copies. The singular words themselves are not what is important, lest we cannot even translate the Bible because in each language there is a different semantic sense to each word, even in word to word analogies, it is the message brought upon by the words which is important and divine.

It is not what John wrote letter for letter in his book of revelations which matters, it is what God showed him, and what he tried to transmit. He was guided by the Holy Spirit in doing so, but do remember that the Holy Spirit NEVER replaces the human mind and hand, it only guides it.
Therefore, we can conclude that in Romans 1, when Paul writes about women abandonning natural relationships with mans and indulging in sinful ones with one another, even if the word "homosexuality" didn't exist in the ancient world, the message behind the words expresses this idea. And you can definitively know this because of tradition, because of apostolic succession, because of the Holy Spirit.

But to see the Bible as this singular entity with absolute word for word infaillibility is enterring the same realm as the die hard KJV protestant fans who even argue that "The KJV corrects the original greek and Hebrew", geg
 
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Nihilma said:
>Man of God may be complete, equipped for every good work
Would imply that the Scriptures make us complete for good work, not complete as a whole. What makes us complete is Christ, his sacrifice, his sacraments and therefore his union to us, to God, through the Church.
Also as said we ain't even all agreeing on what is scripture and what isn't.
You can't see Scripture as this standalone feature of the faith, it is PART of the faith.
The bible is part of tradition, it is the center of tradition, but the Bible without tradition, therefore without episcopal authority and succession, is in and of itself a book written in a different language to us.

Because as I argue, the singular words written in the Bible are meaningless in themselves. This is not the quran. The versions of most Old Testament books we have are not even the originals, we earliest version we have of them are copies of copies of copies. The singular words themselves are not what is important, lest we cannot even translate the Bible because in each language there is a different semantic sense to each word, even in word to word analogies, it is the message brought upon by the words which is important and divine.

It is not what John wrote letter for letter in his boook of revelations which matter, it is what God showed him, and what he tried to transmit. He was guided by the Holy Spirit in doing so, but do remember that the Holy Spirit NEVER replaces the human mind and hand, it only guides it.
Therefore, we can conclude that in Romans 1, when Paul writes about women abandonning natural relationships with mans and indulging in sinful ones with one another, even if the word "homosexuality" didn't exist in the ancient world, the message behind the words express this idea. And you can definitively know this because of tradition, because of apostolic succession, because of the Holy Spirit.

But to see the Bible as this singular entity with absolute word for word infaillibility is enterring the same realm as the die hard KJV protestant fans who even argue that "The KJV corrects the original greek and Hebrew", geg
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I believe I worded my response strangely since I didn't define in a clear sense what I meant by "adherence to scripture", but, yeah, in that term I did mean faith in Christ and involvement of the Holy Spirit in our belief, which is what I failed to convey. By "scripture" I meant what God has willed us to understand from it as Christians, not just the words on the page. It would be foolish to see the idiom "break a leg" on a page and then take it without context as a commandment to snap one's femur, just as it is foolish for a lot of those who do argue for infallibility of the literal text (like those KJV guys) and what they individualistically get from it to, for example, take the entire old law of the Israelites as a checklist and a lifestyle because it's simply "in the Bible", with no further contextual analysis of how it fits within their belief in Christ. Thank you for the response, albeit, as I wasn't interpreting that verse I quoted in my post in an entirely correct manner in my head, but now I do understand it better. Also,
>The Holy Spirit NEVER replaces the human mind and hand, it only guides it.
is a really good quote.
 
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