Mutts, will you be watching the debate?

Will you watch tonight's presidential debate?

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baqqrih said:
You're not a registered voter for the Bad Party? Everyone else in this thread is! I misjudged you, Basil. I never knew anyone would want someone good for president.
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literally nobody in my family are registered voters we just don't like immigrants
i mean we probably are but we just don't vote
 
Just make it great, for modern America never has been. "America" no longer refers to what our founders meant it to be, a prospering, classical, faithful republic, unfaltering to any merchant class or higher empire, where leaders could be decided from a people who knew their ideals and held a similar steadfastness as their government did, against foreign influence. Thing is, the people themselves are now increasingly foreign, as are the politics, the economy, the culture, it's all over the damn place in this country and it's all coming inward, and our attempts at hegemony past our own front door only spread out arrows encircling the world that have now circled themselves back towards us, as if we, after the world wars, flung a boomerang of global terror across the world that is now hitting us back, square in the face. All of what we can do now, as citizens, is use the rights that have been preserved by God for us to utilize in order to take back what we can and await His return. We're already seeing the power of local and lower positions recently. God is showing us signs. Louisiana and Oklahoma have begun putting faith back in the schools. Congressmen like Thomas Massie have stood firm, taking a literal sense to the term "conservatism", conserving our sovereignty against these foreigners in our government allegiant to sinful regimes of terror and genocide that they use our weaponry for. An enlightenment is occurring in the minds of those tired of faithless nonsense, and God has willed it to spread from sea to sea in this country. Our objective, then, as God's loyal people, is to add fuel and tinder to the spreading fire of God's word as it burns through the lies they've battered us with. God will make America great, and we must put His power into ours, wherever and however we govern.
 
baqqrih said:
Just make it great, for modern America never has been. "America" no longer refers to what our founders meant it to be, a prospering, classical, faithful republic, unfaltering to any merchant class or higher empire, where leaders could be decided from a people who knew their ideals and held a similar steadfastness as their government did, against foreign influence. Thing is, the people themselves are now increasingly foreign, as are the politics, the economy, the culture, it's all over the damn place in this country and it's all coming inward, and our attempts at hegemony past our own front door only spread out arrows encircling the world that have now circled themselves back towards us, as if we, after the world wars, flung a boomerang of global terror across the world that is now hitting us back, square in the face. All of what we can do now, as citizens, is use the rights that have been preserved by God for us to utilize in order to take back what we can and await His return. We're already seeing the power of local and lower positions recently. God is showing us signs. Louisiana and Oklahoma have begun putting faith back in the schools. Congressmen like Thomas Massie have stood firm, taking a literal sense to the term "conservatism", conserving our sovereignty against these foreigners in our government allegiant to sinful regimes of terror and genocide that they use our weaponry for. An enlightenment is occurring in the minds of those tired of faithless nonsense, and God has willed it to spread from sea to sea in this country. Our objective, then, as God's loyal people, is to add fuel and tinder to the spreading fire of God's word as it burns through the lies they've battered us with. God will make America great, and we must put His power into ours, wherever and however we govern.
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It was never about liberty. It was so that Freemason Washington and his cronies could experiment on an ideal on a new land far away from the Old World.
 
Xiuhcoyotl said:
It was never about liberty. It was so that Freemason Washington and his cronies could experiment on an ideal on a new land far away from the Old World.
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Sadly, yeah, you're probably correct. I've gotten more suspicious of that since I've started reading more on the Founding Fathers' relations with things like Freemasonry or other radical movements. I need to read about it more, and I'm not sure entirely what to think right now on their involvement in such things. It's obviously shady business. Nothing God would like. It'd be best I find my patriotism not in them as a group, but in those who were under them who led the revolution for the sake of liberty, as well as those who came after their time striving for similar freedoms, like Andrew Jackson.
 
baqqrih said:
Sadly, yeah, you're probably correct. I've gotten more suspicious of that since I've started reading more on the Founding Fathers' relations with things like Freemasonry or other radical movements.
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How is freemason bad doe? My grandpa is a freemason and we didn't get any feds in the night.
 
baqqrih said:
Sadly, yeah, you're probably correct. I've gotten more suspicious of that since I've started reading more on the Founding Fathers' relations with things like Freemasonry or other radical movements. I need to read about it more, and I'm not sure entirely what to think right now on their involvement in such things. It's obviously shady business. Nothing God would like. It'd be best I find my patriotism not in them as a group, but in those who were under them who led the revolution for the sake of liberty, as well as those who came after their time striving for similar freedoms, like Andrew Jackson.
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Jackson was also a Freemason.
 
ILoveVesna said:
How is freemason bad doe? My grandpa is a freemason and we didn't get any feds in the night.
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(This is just from what I've learned in reading of it, as I need to do more in-depth reading on Freemasonry, but here's what I do think of it from my current knowledge) For one thing, even while being a type of organization most commonly established in majority-Christian countries (Europe and America), Freemasonry has a doctrine of general deism that can dissuade people away from the Christian faith, as a membership requirement to become a mason is solely to hold a belief that souls are immortal and there is a supreme being. In addition, there's some lodges of Freemasonry that do promote ideas of mysticism or the occult (not all, but there have been some, mainly in Europe). So, because it sets itself up in Christian countries while promoting a very free spiritual lifestyle that has no limits besides the basic beliefs of practically every religion, it promotes free religious thought that can then lead to heresy or false beliefs in a Christian member's life. No doubt your grandfather is probably a faithful man, and I'm sure his chapter may not do anything bad and may really just be a fraternal, charitable organization, but because of how Freemasonry is set up, from what I've read about it, it isn't designed with a clear intent to promote specifically Christian morals or to strengthen one's faith in The Lord, so it just isn't exactly good in my eyes for that reason. That's why I'm somewhat iffy on my ancestral countrymen's involvement with it. There seems to be no huge presiding order over individual Freemason lodges, so it isn't like they can all promote occultist nonsense, but that mystery of what members or the lodge's actions entail in their work discomforts me in how deep presidents like Washington or Theodore Roosevelt could have actually been in this stuff.
 
baqqrih said:
(This is just from what I've learned in reading of it, as I need to do more in-depth reading on Freemasonry, but here's what I do think of it from my current knowledge) For one thing, even while being a type of organization most commonly established in majority-Christian countries (Europe and America), Freemasonry has a doctrine of general deism that can dissuade people away from the Christian faith, as a membership requirement to become a mason is solely to hold a belief that souls are immortal and there is a supreme being. In addition, there's some lodges of Freemasonry that do promote ideas of mysticism or the occult (not all, but there have been some, mainly in Europe). So, because it sets itself up in Christian countries while promoting a very free spiritual lifestyle that has no limits besides the basic beliefs of practically every religion, it promotes free religious thought that can then lead to heresy or false beliefs in a Christian member's life. No doubt your grandfather is probably a faithful man, and I'm sure his chapter may not do anything bad and may really just be a fraternal, charitable organization, but because of how Freemasonry is set up, from what I've read about it, it isn't designed with a clear intent to promote specifically Christian morals or to strengthen one's faith in The Lord, so it just isn't exactly good in my eyes for that reason. That's why I'm somewhat iffy on my ancestral countrymen's involvement with it. There seems to be no huge presiding order over individual Freemason lodges, so it isn't like they can all promote occultist nonsense, but that mystery of what members or the lodge's actions entail in their work discomforts me in how deep presidents like Washington or Theodore Roosevelt could have actually been in this stuff.
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how does the chapter in the Philippines operate? is it the same as you mutt countries?
 

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