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istanbul
Guest
but actually though
no avoiding the question though
no avoiding the question though
He doesn't interfere with humanities' affairs otherwise he'd be biased and that wouldn't be treating everyone equally. o algo
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istanbul
Guest
then what's the point in praying doe
I see it as a way to reaffirm your faith and devotion to God.
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istanbul
Guest
If he does not get involved then what's the point
UltraSoyLord
Jaking Lord of Old Qway
In a just world, all evil leads to an ultimate good. Something evil that does not ultimately result in a net good is referred to as gratuitous evil. Theologians tend to believe that in the event of gratuitous evil, either God is not good, or He does not exist. The issue is, as mortal humans, we will never be able to identify gratuitous evil even if it did exist. It is one of those leaps of faiths you need to make as someone who worships God.
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istanbul
Guest
It gives people a sense of purpose and for humans it's pretty important to have something to live for.
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istanbul
Guest
so, ot doesn't serve a purpose then?
You get to go to heaven.
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istanbul
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even doe that's predetermined
UltraSoyLord
Jaking Lord of Old Qway
It's a pretty simple concept. In a just world, if an evil act is committed, it either avoids some evil equally bad or worse or it secures some compensating good. So, at the end of time, all evil that has transpired has in some way led to an ultimately good ending. Otherwise, gratuitous evil exists.
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istanbul
Guest
not reading all that strawman doe
I said you couldn't avoid the question doe
UltraSoyLord
Jaking Lord of Old Qway
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istanbul
Guest
God is omniscientBluds a Calvinist
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istanbul
Guest
That's retarded honestly but I'm going going to sleep right now.
If you believe this then I have to assume not many bad things have happened to you in your life.
No one knows if they’re going to heaven albeit.
UltraSoyLord
Jaking Lord of Old Qway
Knowing the outcome of everything and predetermining the outcome of everything are two very different things. Predetermination rejects the idea of free will and in doing so removes the meaning of all struggle and good deeds. At least in most Christian religions, the point of our mortal lives on Earth is to give us the choice to walk with God in heaven, which requires free will. You may question how this is the most efficient means of doing this or why God doesn't just snap his fingers and create humans who have already chosen to walk with him. As mortal humans, comprehending a being who exists outside of our reality and is greater than us in all ways infinitely is pointless. If an omnipresent, omnipotent, and omniscient God exists, you will never understand him. That is where faith comes in. Everyone wants that cold hard proof that X is the true religion or belief system, but it doesn't exist even if you are an atheist. We cannot know what comes after life, because it is beyond us.
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