I think it would be a waste of time for me to debate this again but...
I disagree
Yes, but the secular take on why suicide bad is the better argument here because people like @WH15KeY don't believe in "sky daddy" or whatever they call God.
The only way for you to say that with certantly is if you believe suicide is always irrational no matter what, which is an absurd belief to have unless your religion says so for some reason.
I don't think that will stop people from killing themselves sadly.
Not if we use draconian-level enforcement
What's wrong with admitting defeat? Why should you keep going when there is clearly no way to improve your situation, or doing so takes such an enormous amount of energy that it might as well just not be possible at all?
Cool story.
I doubt we will ever will. Well, I am speaking in the context of the USA. We are a very individualistic country. For better or worse I believe we shall remain that way.
The Olympic runner didn’t kill himself because he decided the suffering he would endure from living is worth it. I won’t shame him for deciding that. I won’t say he’s wrong.
My arguments are religious in nature. Suicide is bad because God says so, as He commands that He is the one who should take life away, rather than the person possessing the life.
Suicide is always irrational no matter what. You are choosing the cowards way out whether it be for pain or for humiliation or for a self interest. You are choosing to kill yourself to satisfy a temporary desire for peace. Everyone in your family will suffer. All of your friends will suffer. That is selfishness. That is cowardice. You cannot survive in a world with pain. You lost and you own that. "But the next life is just like a disconnected computer; no feelings no nothing o algo" now you are speaking my language. What proof do you have of that being the case? How many NDE's have you examined and read over? I mean, you are the expert after all. Facts and logic triumph everything in a godless mind. Can you cite me the sources that people who suffer from mental illness and depression were saved from deeper regrets and depression after suicide attempts and the legalization of assisted suicide? I can cite sources if you are willing to put yourself against me.
Even from the secular point of view, assisted suicide is still bad. Saying that life is something so worthless that it could be ended by simply walking into a shop one day with some dollar bills isn't good for the health of humanity. It's selfish and seeing that this has even become a concept reflects on society's apathy towards human life. You could purchase a firearm and some bullets if you wanted to, kill yourself that way. But nah, you're too much of a pussy to do that. You've got to normalize suicide to be comfortable enough to take your own life. That's the most pathetic shit ever. Think about what that means for other people and their productivity, it'd be demoralizing as fuck knowing I live on the same planet with some baby that killed himself in the gas pod over some pussy. And I don't know why you included that last part about being devout, that was random.
What if I don’t have friends or family?
I think what he means to say is "if your argument is religious in nature, we cannot use statistics or scientific studies to confront it. Thus, we not be able to reach any understanding without us sharing your same belief system"
