Keyed How do i lose my virginity?

[Gemerald]

please

 

[(In)CelibatePsycho]

Reminder that this is what you fuckwits believe:
https://incels.wiki/w/Trannymaxxing

Fake news

 

[Aedra]

Reminder that this is what you fuckwits believe:
https://incels.wiki/w/Trannymaxxing

Most of incel wiki is pure brimstone that not even inkwells themselves take seriously. The only page worth reading there is this one :

Scientific Blackpill

The Scientific Blackpill is about understanding the nature of human social and sexual behavior with a particular focus on evolutionary psychological perspectives...

incels.wiki

 

[Dr Frumpus Croid]

It’s retarded if you don’t think looks matter. From employment to social connections humans have a major bias towards those with good looks. Sure you can looksmax but that’ll only take you so far.

 

[Nihilma]

I wasn’t being serious you stupid nigger, what’s why I used the . I see nothing wrong with Christians shitting on others, and only get upset when they do it for stupid reasons. Not even bait and you still fell for it

Also I’m an agnostic not an atheist and I do respect religious people as a group (at least, I respect them as much as the average person). However, I do not respect you as an individual, partially because you are being hostile for no reason - I didn’t even say anything extremely blackpilled, just that looks matter in all situations and that looks are based on both effort and genetics. I doubt you would even disagree with those claims, yet you still attacked me simply because I was an incel. You insulted me not for my actual beliefs or claims but for the way I made you feel. Also you very clearly have animosity towards me as in individual, I don’t know why you are even attempting to deny that.

>hostile for no reason

My bad for assuming someone means a tranny reaction when they tranny react on a blog. I thought YOU were being hostile in the first place and that's why I reciprocated with the same degree of hostility. It's very easy to say something and then backtrack and say it's all a joke. Oldest trick in a book.
That's were the animosity comes from. You tranny reacting messages that were meant as encouragement.

Also yeah you're right looks do matter. Again, no reason to tranny react someone who tells another person to go workout, or who gives another example of success as a proof that it's not over for them.

 

[Nihilma]

It's more like inceldom and living a meaningless life is what leads to apathy/atheism towards anything spiritual. You're being too harsh if you assume a man's bad personality is the reason for his inceldom. It's the opposite, rejection is what leads to the bad personality. You can't expect someone to just suck it up after being made an outcast. So many of these incels you dislike tried acting the way you'd want them to once upon a time, and it simply didn't work.

You know, there's this thing about having a choice after something happens to you, it's the same in christian theology actually. Everytime something happens to you, you have a choice between doing something good and doing something bad, aka sinning. Not saying incels are sinning but it's the same principle.

Something bad happened in your interpersonnal relationships with women, and you had a choice in how to react to this. If you chose to become a blackpill incel, and chose to stay in this environment, it didn't just "happen" to you. You made choices.

I'm really tired of people playing the victim card all the time.

 

[Stephen]

Reminder that this is what you fuckwits believe:
https://incels.wiki/w/Trannymaxxing

Incels, this is your mindset

 

[xyz]

BE A BASED ARYAN SIGMA GIGACHAD WITH W SKIBIDI RIZZ IN OHIO

 

[Aedra]

You know, there's this thing about having a choice after something happens to you, it's the same in christian theology actually. Everytime something happens to you, you have a choice between doing something good and doing something bad, aka sinning. Not saying incels are sinning but it's the same principle.

Something bad happened in your interpersonnal relationships with women, and you had a choice in how to react to this. If you chose to become a blackpill incel, and chose to stay in this environment, it didn't just "happen" to you. You made choices.

I'm really tired of people playing the victim card all the time.

None of this is even related to the argument I've made. Are you interested in discussing the matter or attacking my character? If it's the latter, no one asked. If it's the former, go ahead and write something proper.

 

[Nihilma]

None of this is even related to the argument I've made. Are you interested in discussing the matter or attacking my character? If it's the latter, no one asked. If it's the former, go ahead and write something proper.

But it is.
Living a meaningless life doesn't HAVE to end in you becoming an incel and/or an atheist, I'm pretty sure you agree on that.

Saying "I became an incel because this happened to me" is the same as saying "I became an atheist because God didn't answer me".

Bad stuff doesn't necessarily end in ONE outcome. You have a choice. And incels made the choice to become and stay in this unhealthy community. Therefore I don't wanna treat them as victims. Other people have suffered the same events they did, and these people didn't end where they are.

 

[Aedra]

But it is.
Living a meaningless life doesn't HAVE to end in you becoming an incel and/or an atheist, I'm pretty sure you agree on that.

Saying "I became an incel because this happened to me" is the same as saying "I became an atheist because God didn't answer me".

Bad stuff doesn't necessarily end in ONE outcome. You have a choice. And incels made the choice to become and stay in this unhealthy community. Therefore I don't wanna treat them as victims. Other people have suffered the same events they did, and these people didn't end where they are.

This isn't a very logical argument though. You say incels are an "unhealthy community" even though incels aren't a hivemind and there are plenty of religious incels. I've met many Christian incels during my time in those spaces, and in fact, one of those incels was the one who pushed me towards investigating Christianity when I knew nothing of it. So maybe hold back your assumptions before talking so badly about them?

Inceldom is not an ideology. It is a state of being. Just because you "interpret things differently" wouldn't mean you're not necessarily involuntarily celibate now, would it? A man who wants to find a woman but cannot is, by definition, an incel. Blaming incels themselves for being incels is the very definition of victim blaming. None of these ideologies or men with such problems existed prior to the sexual revolution so clearly there are outside factors at work that caused them to become lonely. I'm sure you wouldn't dispute that.

As for the whole God argument, here's the thing : there's a logical, theological answer to the problem of evil. So denying God based on Him not preventing evil or whatever is objectively delusional. But there is no logical answer or justification for the kinds of evil things modern women do, whether it's sleeping around, getting together with the most sociopathic men, voting for leftist politics (aka self destruction), engaging in selling their own bodies, prostitution, abortion (infanticide), hatred towards men, feminism and narcissistic social individualism of all kinds. Getting mad at women for murdering their own children is entirely justified, and if I may add, killing those women for said infanticide is also justified. I did not kill any children, but women have murdered millions, if not billions.

Therefore, being bitter and spiteful towards women is entirely logical in this modern age. Even if I don't approve of someone saying all women should be raped or whatever, what I also have to acknowledge is the fact that the person who says those awful things says them with valid reasons at its core ; modern women are awful.

 

[Nihilma]

This isn't a very logical argument though. You say incels are an "unhealthy community" even though incels aren't a hivemind and there are plenty of religious incels. I've met many Christian incels during my time in those spaces, and in fact, one of those incels was the one who pushed me towards investigating Christianity when I knew nothing of it. So maybe hold back your assumptions before talking so badly about them?

Inceldom is not an ideology. It is a state of being. Just because you "interpret things differently" wouldn't mean you're not necessarily involuntarily celibate now, would it? A man who wants to find a woman but cannot is, by definition, an incel. Blaming incels themselves for being incels is the very definition of victim blaming. None of these ideologies or men with such problems existed prior to the sexual revolution so clearly there are outside factors at work that caused them to become lonely. I'm sure you wouldn't dispute that.

As for the whole God argument, here's the thing : there's a logical, theological answer to the problem of evil. So denying God based on Him not preventing evil or whatever is objectively delusional. But there is no logical answer or justification for the kinds of evil things modern women do, whether it's sleeping around, getting together with the most sociopathic men, voting for leftist politics (aka self destruction), engaging in selling their own bodies, prostitution, abortion (infanticide), hatred towards men, feminism and narcissistic social individualism of all kinds. Getting mad at women for murdering their own children is entirely justified, and if I may add, killing those women for said infanticide is also justified. I did not kill any children, but women have murdered millions, if not billions.

Therefore, being bitter and spiteful towards women is entirely logical in this modern age. Even if I don't approve of someone saying all women should be raped or whatever, what I also have to acknowledge is the fact that the person who says those awful things says them with valid reasons at its core ; modern women are awful.
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Okay right, inceldom isn't an ideology got it, but what about blackpill. I'm sorry if the two are different things, but it seemed to me the two were one and the same.

Because I seem to get that blackpill at the very least is an ideology, a system of beliefs about the world, per definition.

Because if you really do differentiate the two, and remain on the plain definitipn of what an incel is, oh I absolutely agree with you, there's plenty of incels who aren't blackpilled. They just literally are involuntary celibates, I've got no problems with them. It just seems to me that those people aren't the ones who are going to label themselves as incels, because the word is associated WITH the blackpill, at least where I've been online. Hence I used the terms interchangeably, mb if that was a mistake.

 

[Nihilma]

This isn't a very logical argument though. You say incels are an "unhealthy community" even though incels aren't a hivemind and there are plenty of religious incels. I've met many Christian incels during my time in those spaces, and in fact, one of those incels was the one who pushed me towards investigating Christianity when I knew nothing of it. So maybe hold back your assumptions before talking so badly about them?

Inceldom is not an ideology. It is a state of being. Just because you "interpret things differently" wouldn't mean you're not necessarily involuntarily celibate now, would it? A man who wants to find a woman but cannot is, by definition, an incel. Blaming incels themselves for being incels is the very definition of victim blaming. None of these ideologies or men with such problems existed prior to the sexual revolution so clearly there are outside factors at work that caused them to become lonely. I'm sure you wouldn't dispute that.

As for the whole God argument, here's the thing : there's a logical, theological answer to the problem of evil. So denying God based on Him not preventing evil or whatever is objectively delusional. But there is no logical answer or justification for the kinds of evil things modern women do, whether it's sleeping around, getting together with the most sociopathic men, voting for leftist politics (aka self destruction), engaging in selling their own bodies, prostitution, abortion (infanticide), hatred towards men, feminism and narcissistic social individualism of all kinds. Getting mad at women for murdering their own children is entirely justified, and if I may add, killing those women for said infanticide is also justified. I did not kill any children, but women have murdered millions, if not billions.

Therefore, being bitter and spiteful towards women is entirely logical in this modern age. Even if I don't approve of someone saying all women should be raped or whatever, what I also have to acknowledge is the fact that the person who says those awful things says them with valid reasons at its core ; modern women are awful.
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I vehemently disagree on the last part, simply because on the subject of sex and abortion, it doesn't just affect women. It affects women and men. Some women, and every girl in the churches I know of, vehemently opposes abortion, while every man I know of on my university campus favours it. So abortion and even sexual frivolity isn't a female only thing, I know of men who take sex way more lightly than women.

Also, "no theological explanation" for it is absurdity, although I do know that the Eastern Orthodox Churches don't work with original sin, which we westerners do. To us, man is inherently evil, and cannot by his own power reach for God, hence the need for Jesus.

 

[Nihilma]

Okay right, inceldom isn't an ideology got it, but what about blackpill. I'm sorry if the two are different things, but it seemed to me the two were one and the same.

Because I seem to get that blackpill at the very least is an ideology, a system of beliefs about the world, per definition.

Because if you really do differentiate the two, and remain on the plain definitipn of what an incel is, oh I absolutely agree with you, there's plenty of incels who aren't blackpilled. They just literally are involuntary celibates, I've got no problems with them. It just seems to me that those people aren't the ones who are going to label themselves as incels, because the word is associated WITH the blackpill, at least where I've been online. Hence I used the terms interchangeably, mb if that was a mistake.

So in short my answer still applies, but to the blackpill community, not incels, ig.

 

[Aedra]

Okay right, inceldom isn't an ideology got it, but what about blackpill. I'm sorry if the two are different things, but it seemed to me the two were one and the same.

Because I seem to get that blackpill at the very least is an ideology, a system of beliefs about the world, per definition

The blackpill basically aims to state things as they are. So for example the blackpill would say that whites are objectively the most attractive race to women while indians/asians are the least attractive. Obviously only generally. Same with height, good looks, etc.. Everything else is mere detail, if some random incel is pushing for, lets say, eugenics by using the blackpill ideas as a tool then that's just his personal opinion, not the blackpill itself. Because as I said, the whole BP thing merely explains how things currently work with women and leaves everything else up to you to decide.

Another thing I will add : a grave mistake you make is assuming the whole incel thing is just the male version of feminism. This simply cannot be the case, only something like MGTOW can be the equivalent at best. Incels want women. Feminists generally don't want men. There's a fundamental difference there. There is literally nothing stopping a woman from getting any man she wants but there are plenty of obstacles in an incel's way. From this alone you can make out who the victim is : by looking at who has the power.

I vehemently disagree on the last part, simply because on the subject of sex and abortion, it doesn't just affect women. It affects women and men. Some women, and every girl in the churches I know of, vehemently opposes abortion, while every man I know of on my university campus favours it. So abortion and even sexual frivolity isn't a female only thing, I know of men who take sex way more lightly than women.

Here's the problem : your idea boils down to "but not every woman is pro-degeneracy and not every man is anti-degeneracy, so why only be hostile to women?" I of course agree that not all modern women are awful, but a majority are. Your argument about not all men/women thing breaks down because there's a very clear correlation between being a woman and having leftist beliefs, this is statistically out there. Women are objectively more pro-degeneracy than men are. And this correlation is seen world wide. So when I say modern women suck, I am making an exception for that tiny minority of women who aren't whores of course. But as I said, most women are living in a land of delusion.

So in short my answer still applies, but to the blackpill community, not incels, ig.

I think you are basically aiming in the wrong place tbh. Most of your arguments stem from a misunderstanding of what BP even is. Many of your writings remind me of 2017-2020 media coverage of "da evil incel movement". A lot of wrong assumptions here.

 

[Aedra]

Also, "no theological explanation" for it is absurdity, although I do know that the Eastern Orthodox Churches don't work with original sin, which we westerners do. To us, man is inherently evil, and cannot by his own power reach for God, hence the need for Jesus.

I don't get what you even mean here. Elaborate?

 

[(In)CelibatePsycho]

Just focus on yourself and building a personality that people want to be around, whether you're a funny guy or dependable or someone they can go to when they feel down, or preferably all three. Look like you give a fuck about yourself and the people around you and take care of others even if there is no real benefit to yourself to do so. People see the invisible things you do in the way you carry yourself and your habits+the words you choose to speak.

Not every friendship you make is going to be a good one and not every girl you meet is going to be interested in you, but through the process of elimination you're going to find some people that you like that like you too. Accept that things are going to suck and get used to it, especially (as most of you are) if you are a man. A man's life is short moments of happiness followed by years of work to get back to those moments of happiness. Make the best use of your time to improve the world around you in small ways and a woman will find her way to you.

Agree with most of this but the last part. Being a good person doesn’t guarantee romantic love

 

[Nihilma]

The blackpill basically aims to state things as they are. So for example the blackpill would say that whites are objectively the most attractive race to women while indians/asians are the least attractive. Obviously only generally. Same with height, good looks, etc.. Everything else is mere detail, if some random incel is pushing for, lets say, eugenics by using the blackpill ideas as a tool then that's just his personal opinion, not the blackpill itself. Because as I said, the whole BP thing merely explains how things currently work with women and leaves everything else up to you to decide.

Another thing I will add : a grave mistake you make is assuming the whole incel thing is just the male version of feminism. This simply cannot be the case, only something like MGTOW can be the equivalent at best. Incels want women. Feminists generally don't want men. There's a fundamental difference there. There is literally nothing stopping a woman from getting any man she wants but there are plenty of obstacles in an incel's way. From this alone you can make out who the victim is : by looking at who has the power.

Here's the problem : your idea boils down to "but not every woman is pro-degeneracy and not every man is anti-degeneracy, so why only be hostile to women?" I of course agree that not all modern women are awful, but a majority are. Your argument about not all men/women thing breaks down because there's a very clear correlation between being a woman and having leftist beliefs, this is statistically out there. Women are objectively more pro-degeneracy than men are. And this correlation is seen world wide. So when I say modern women suck, I am making an exception for that tiny minority of women who aren't whores of course. But as I said, most women are living in a land of delusion.
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I think you are basically aiming in the wrong place tbh. Most of your arguments stem from a misunderstanding of what BP even is. Many of your writings remind me of 2017-2020 media coverage of "da evil incel movement". A lot of wrong assumptions here.

Ight I'll be more nuanced then.
But tbh since I personally only care about christian girls in the first place, I must say the vast majority of girls I talk to are the very opposite of degenerate.

Ig in the end it just boils down to who you surround yourself with

 

[Nihilma]

I don't get what you even mean here. Elaborate?

Well we believe that the fault of Eve and Adam was inherited by humanity. And that sin is now engraved in our nature, so no matter the age and time, humans have always have a lust for sin. Ig the modern age just offers more opportunity to display this sin

 

[Aedra]

Well we believe that the fault of Eve and Adam was inherited by humanity. And that sin is now engraved in our nature, so no matter the age and time, humans have always have a lust for sin. Ig the modern age just offers more opportunity to display this sin

I don't get how this is relevant to my argument though. Sure humans have a lust for sin, but many of these sins were illegal just 200 years ago. I hope you can acknowledge that. Things have changed massively. If I brought back some random girl from the middle ages to the modern age, she'd be a total outcast among today's women. And she'd hate modern culture entirely, from the core to the little things.

 

[Nihilma]

I don't get how this is relevant to my argument though. Sure humans have a lust for sin, but many of these sins were illegal just 200 years ago. I hope you can acknowledge that. Things have changed massively. If I brought back some random girl from the middle ages to the modern age, she'd be a total outcast among today's women. And she'd hate modern culture entirely, from the core to the little things.

Yeah things have gotten legalized, true, but I don't think people changed.
You also have to take into account that reality to us seems so much more worse because we are constantly exposed to the worst of humanity thanks to the internet.
90% of people around me IRL are just normal people who act rather normally. They don't think that much.
And I believe that, given enough time, you bring a girl from the middle ages to our time, she'd adapt pretty quickly to become a normal girl here.

Man inherently didn't change, technology did, and technology changed society.
So I don't think people were different. Women also slept around during the middle ages, men also did, probably even more than women during the middle ages. Prostitution never ceased to exist, even abortion always was a thing.

The only difference is 1) More things qre legalized 2) The bad stuff is displayed more.
Literally imagine if during the middle ages there was a thing like the internet were everyone could see the worst of what is happening in the world at any time