Discussion Evil Taxation, and God's Will

[baqqrih]

I have a conundrum in my head. Scripture has told us that we are to pay to the authorities what is due to them, yet I am now thinking, "what is truly 'due' if their revenues violate the will of our Lord?" In other terms, what is due to a government, appointed over us by God with the intent for it to punish evildoers and praise those of goodness (as written in Peter's first epistle, 2:14) when this government does not act as God's servant for our good in the first place (Epistle to the Romans 13:4)? A proper example of what has brought me to this question is with the satanic United States federal government's spending. "Planned Parenthood", a vicious, national band of child-sacrificing demons, receives hundreds of millions of dollars in federal funding each year from the United States government. In paying the government taxes, we are, with this knowledge in our heads, willingly giving them "what is due" so that they may slay more infants in bloody murder. If we are to pay what is due, are the lives of these infants not due to God only, for Him to bless and prolong as He wills, rather than the abhorrent sacrificers to do this? Why then must evil-bound revenues be sent from faithful people to the badness that rules over us? Would it not be preferable to be imprisoned for escaping these payments, rather than to be among all who fund the horrid destruction of innocent babies? I do not even pay this money, yet, for I am still in my young years without that demand from the authorities, but my heart trembles to think that I will be forced to do this in coming time, to fund all of this horror that's going on right now, to then know that I am a part of it with obedience to taxation. It brought me to tears in bed last night when it came to mind, it is that frightening, and I can not clear my head of it when I now talk with God, since His presence reminds me of my adherence to His will, and thus the fear of this evil taxation, which will stray me away from Him if I follow it, now remains. What thoughts do you all have of this, then?

 

[FAGGOT!!!!!!!!!!!!]

The only way to stop an evil system is to fight against it. Jesus flipped over the table of the corrupt merchants at the temple, didn't he?

 

[Oot]

Smugjak explaining why he reported nothing to the IRS despite having a lambo in his front yard

 

[baqqrih]

The only way to stop an evil system is to fight against it. Jesus flipped over the table of the corrupt merchants at the temple, didn't he?

It is said that most will go to hell, implying a majority, for we as believers will always be a minority of the world. How, then, can we fight against a system that has been established globally without eventual failure from overwhelming worldly resistance and by our own imperfection that exists in all of our effort? The way I see it, only God can redeem this world or any area of it to the extent that it will ever go back to a goodness higher than how it was before global governments turned to even more dreadful filth as they have today, with such mass a spread of child sacrifice, dastardly sexual immorality, sheer apostasy, so many more abominations to The Lord, and so I therefore believe that we are unable to do such a thing, and can only hold out among our fellow faithful to spread the Gospel to the remnant on this planet who He wills to hear, as has been our duty until His coming. If you try and fight as an individual against a crowd with stones clenched in every hand, without waiting for a shield to be delivered (as in, the second coming of Christ), you will end yourself. Of course, then that is martyrdom, but in that death you then also lose your own mortal self, and so you can no longer directly spread the Gospel to the remnant willing to hear, which would guide more to redemption.

 

[AshkeNazi]

I have a conundrum in my head. Scripture has told us that we are to pay to the authorities what is due to them, yet I am now thinking, "what is truly 'due' if their revenues violate the will of our Lord?" In other terms, what is due to a government, appointed over us by God with the intent for it to punish evildoers and praise those of goodness (as written in Peter's first epistle, 2:14) when this government does not act as God's servant for our good in the first place (Epistle to the Romans 13:4)? A proper example of what has brought me to this question is with the satanic United States federal government's spending. "Planned Parenthood", a vicious, national band of child-sacrificing demons, receives hundreds of millions of dollars in federal funding each year from the United States government. In paying the government taxes, we are, with this knowledge in our heads, willingly giving them "what is due" so that they may slay more infants in bloody murder. If we are to pay what is due, are the lives of these infants not due to God only, for Him to bless and prolong as He wills, rather than the abhorrent sacrificers to do this? Why then must evil-bound revenues be sent from faithful people to the badness that rules over us? Would it not be preferable to be imprisoned for escaping these payments, rather than to be among all who fund the horrid destruction of innocent babies? I do not even pay this money, yet, for I am still in my young years without that demand from the authorities, but my heart trembles to think that I will be forced to do this in coming time, to fund all of this horror that's going on right now, to then know that I am a part of it with obedience to taxation. It brought me to tears in bed last night when it came to mind, it is that frightening, and I can not clear my head of it when I now talk with God, since His presence reminds me of my adherence to His will, and thus the fear of this evil taxation, which will stray me away from Him if I follow it, now remains. What thoughts do you all have of this, then?

wouldn't you know it, that exact conundrum has a scriptural answer
matthew 22:15-22

 

[Neutralplier]

If you want to be civil about it then protesting seems like the only avenue you have. In the meantime you'll have to pay taxes, and it might end up going to stuff you disagree, even morally with. So make peace with it until you overcome or something i guess. The good news is its so small of a fund that your taxes probably wont go to it directly

 

[Chairman]

I have a conundrum in my head. Scripture has told us that we are to pay to the authorities what is due to them, yet I am now thinking, "what is truly 'due' if their revenues violate the will of our Lord?" In other terms, what is due to a government, appointed over us by God with the intent for it to punish evildoers and praise those of goodness (as written in Peter's first epistle, 2:14) when this government does not act as God's servant for our good in the first place (Epistle to the Romans 13:4)? A proper example of what has brought me to this question is with the satanic United States federal government's spending. "Planned Parenthood", a vicious, national band of child-sacrificing demons, receives hundreds of millions of dollars in federal funding each year from the United States government. In paying the government taxes, we are, with this knowledge in our heads, willingly giving them "what is due" so that they may slay more infants in bloody murder. If we are to pay what is due, are the lives of these infants not due to God only, for Him to bless and prolong as He wills, rather than the abhorrent sacrificers to do this? Why then must evil-bound revenues be sent from faithful people to the badness that rules over us? Would it not be preferable to be imprisoned for escaping these payments, rather than to be among all who fund the horrid destruction of innocent babies? I do not even pay this money, yet, for I am still in my young years without that demand from the authorities, but my heart trembles to think that I will be forced to do this in coming time, to fund all of this horror that's going on right now, to then know that I am a part of it with obedience to taxation. It brought me to tears in bed last night when it came to mind, it is that frightening, and I can not clear my head of it when I now talk with God, since His presence reminds me of my adherence to His will, and thus the fear of this evil taxation, which will stray me away from Him if I follow it, now remains. What thoughts do you all have of this, then?

Just don't pay taxes, geg. Kill any and all IRS niggers that come to your house, and hide the bodies in the garden. If glowies ask you anything, shoot them as well. After killing the glowies, rig the doorbell with a bomb that will destroy the whole front lawn. Move to another state with a new identity and repeat.

 

[Chairman]

Just don't pay taxes, geg. Kill any and all IRS niggers that come to your house, and hide the bodies in the garden. If glowies ask you anything, shoot them as well. After killing the glowies, rig the doorbell with a bomb that will destroy the whole front lawn. Move to another state with a new identity and repeat.

Also I don't know where to get fake IDs. Do not exchange PGP keys with me in my DMs and ask me for a URL.

 

[baqqrih]

wouldn't you know it, that exact conundrum has a scriptural answer
matthew 22:15-22

I understand taxation itself. My issue with that response is: "what is due to Caesar", then? Are the lives of our children due to him, to be taken by his will? Why fund that? If they put a sword to any Christian's neck and tell that person to empty their coffers so that they can build more altars to kill children on, is it not righteous to let that sword strike you? Would it not even be more glorifying to God to entirely migrate away from the United States in order to pay taxes to a government that isn't sacrificing children? This entire issue is making me rethink any plan I did have of residing properly in America in my adulthood.

 

['gatorfag sl33p]

Just don't pay taxes, geg. Kill any and all IRS niggers that come to your house, and hide the bodies in the garden. If glowies ask you anything, shoot them as well. After killing the glowies, rig the doorbell with a bomb that will destroy the whole front lawn. Move to another state with a new identity and repeat.

V

 

[ISTANBUL]

I understand taxation itself. My issue with that is: "what is due to Caesar", then? Are the lives of our children due to him, to be taken by his will? Why fund that? If they put a sword to any Christian's neck and tell that person to empty their coffers so that they can build more altars to kill children on, is it not righteous to let that sword strike you? Would it not even be more glorifying to God to entirely migrate away from the United States in order to pay taxes to a government that isn't sacrificing children? This entire issue is making me rethink any plan I did have of residing properly in America in my adulthood.

which governments aren't?

 

[Neutralplier]

I understand taxation itself. My issue with that is "what is due to Caesar", then? Are the lives of our children due to him, to be taken by his will? Why fund that? If they put a sword to any Christian's neck and tell them to empty their coffers so that they can build more altars to kill children on, is it not righteous to let that sword strike you? Would it not even be more glorifying to God to entirely migrate away from the United States in order to pay taxes to a government that isn't sacrificing children? This entire issue is making me rethink any plan I did have of residing properly in America in my adulthood.

What jesus says is in reference to currency itself
The coins are not of yours but of ceasars government. Ceasar will do as he will with his economy and paying taxes is "giving back ceaser his money". Jesus says that it does not ultimately matter what he does as long as you also "give back to god" (paying taxes to god, ergo you dont own what you own, it is instead gods). The point is that Ceaser will do as he will do with his economy, where it goes and what happens. So paying taxes is not a choice and you are not responsible for abortions, as the money the government uses to pay to abortions was orignally and is the governments money to do so with. Atleast thats what im understanding

 

[Chairman]

which governments aren't?

Muslim countries, and countries run by people who don't know what an abortion is (i.e. Niggers/Africans). On that note, Muslim countries have more accommodations for Christians than do most Western countries. I've never even seen a pride flag or a mixed-gender bathroom IRL before I left the Emirates for Britain.

 

[baqqrih]

What jesus says is in reference to currency itself
The coins are not of yours but of ceasars government. Ceasar will do as he will with his economy and paying taxes is "giving back ceaser his money". Jesus says that it does not ultimately matter what he does as long as you also "give back to god" (paying taxes to god, ergo you dont own what you own, it is instead gods). The point is that Ceaser will do as he will do with his economy, where it goes and what happens. So paying taxes is not a choice and you are not responsible for abortions, as the money the government uses to pay to abortions was orignally and is the governments money to do so with. Atleast thats what im understanding

I guess that is right, and so I thank you for explaining it that way. It is what they have printed, after all, so if I am to obey The Lord, I have to simply trust that my own intention in paying taxes is only to obey what He has told us to do, rather than to at all endorse where the money goes, as it's out of my control in the scale of my individual will versus the governing authority's. I'm also now concluding that in that time, the empires of those days that the commands were received under were also using the money of taxation for similarly horrendous acts against God's will as well, so the command would still stand now as it did then. Thank you, again.

 

[ISTANBUL]

Muslim countries, and countries run by people who don't know what an abortion is (i.e. Niggers/Africans). On that note, Muslim countries have more accommodations for Christians than do most Western countries. I've never even seen a pride flag or a mixed-gender bathroom IRL before I left the Emirates for Britain.

>I hate my country because they terminate fetuses therefore I will move to a country where the age of consent is 5 and grown, conscious children are actively abused without any protection from the state
the christcuck mentality

 

[baqqrih]

>I hate my country because they terminate fetuses therefore I will move to a country where the age of consent is 5 and grown, conscious children are actively abused without any protection from the state
the christcuck mentality

I've already come to a different conclusion than what I first assumed, but to further answer you, it appears some countries in Central America, and countries such as the Philippines, Andorra, and, interestingly, Madagascar, all also have full bans on abortion.

 

[ISTANBUL]

I've already come to a different conclusion than what I first assumed, but to further answer you, it appears some countries in Central America, and countries such as the Philippines, Andorra, and, interestingly, Madagascar, all also have full bans on abortion.

Human trafficking is rife in those places dude
Scully did what he did in the Philippines for a reason

 

[Aedra]

>I hate my country because they terminate fetuses therefore I will move to a country where the age of consent is 5 and grown, conscious children are actively abused without any protection from the state
the christcuck mentality

In western countries they actively do both of those things. Might aswell be in a place where one of them is absent, even if it's not ideal.

 

[FAGGOT!!!!!!!!!!!!]

I understand taxation itself. My issue with that response is: "what is due to Caesar", then? Are the lives of our children due to him, to be taken by his will? Why fund that? If they put a sword to any Christian's neck and tell that person to empty their coffers so that they can build more altars to kill children on, is it not righteous to let that sword strike you? Would it not even be more glorifying to God to entirely migrate away from the United States in order to pay taxes to a government that isn't sacrificing children? This entire issue is making me rethink any plan I did have of residing properly in America in my adulthood.

It is not the lives of our children that are taken--the children of the blasphemers and heretics are the ones that are killed. It's sort of poetic to see that their policies are what will lead to their own undoing.

 

[Chairman]

>I hate my country because they terminate fetuses therefore I will move to a country where the age of consent is 5 and grown, conscious children are actively abused without any protection from the state
the christcuck mentality

I don't encourage people to move to foreign nations. You would make yourself a parasite leeching off the foreign country---a lowly invader, undeserving of sympathy. Earlier in this thread I was encouraging people to instead fix their own nation by fighting their traitorous government.