Autism do you believe "high-functioning" autism is real and can you grow out of it

But I suppose I'll end this by saying that I believe that Autism is real based off of studies, of which there are many like the one below and Asperger's research.

Behavioral, Cognitive and Neural Markers of Asperger Syndrome - PMC

Asperger syndrome (AS) is a subtype of Autism Spectrum Disorder (ASD) characterized by major problems in social and nonverbal communication, together with limited and repetitive forms of behavior and interests. The linguistic and cognitive ...
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I suppose you could equate this to belief, but I have my own diagnosis which has an analysis of my own behaviour, which I'm more than sure if I recorded myself, I could notice myself performing behavioural patterns subconciously and thus, having performed scientific research on myself. (even though that's flawed and biased, because there is a sample size of 1 conducted by a researcher who already has a point to prove) At some point though, it wouldn't matter how many studies you did or to what lengths you'd have to go to, to prove your own autism to someone like Aedra, their mind wouldn't be changed, as would I with religion and the countless witness testimonies from unintelligent medieval peasants, most of which couldn't write. I would however say that Religion is extremely out of date.

To me it seems like theres a fundamental issue with belief, as it supercedes everything else, even if you are wrong. Nobody likes to be proven wrong, but when it happens you'll eventually have to accept the truth. As for religion, I have yet to see enough evidence from any religion, Christianity, Muslim, etc, that actually confirms any of it. Albeit, if any of that is false, then wouldn't history itself be false too? I suppose the only centrist way of going about it is to just assume that all religions are true based off of what most of them have in common, not how they defer. What is important however is that even if Christianity is true, it doesn't necessarily effect the modern age that much, as God and Jesus will not be returning.

However I don't see how religion has a place in the argument of whether or not autism and psychology is real. If it does, are we to suggest that people who are autistic are children of satan? I feel like the only conclusion to that in that context is for an autistic person to start masking and pretend to not have autism but still have autism and act out of line, and before you know it, its just more discrimination by neurotypicals who hate you for acting slightly differently.

But I suppose what Aedra thinks is that autism isn't real, some people are just weird. Well then what does that mean for the "weird" people, should their concerns just be disregarded? It feels hard for me to even want to entertain your religion if you're saying that I am a work of satan purely because of circumstances surrounding my birth. Religious people just seem very mean and authoritarian. Well, this argument seems fruitless. I suppose if you're a cuck, there is no answer, or there is, it just depends on what you believe now.
 
Steve said:
Interesting case but that is just looking at Psych as how it is used by corrupt leaders, you wouldn't say medicine isn't a science but we all know how the world gov's used it to control the people of the world during 2020 and the Chinese flu hit the world so really every science is prone to corruption by groups who want to influence the general public. I did not study psych myself (engineering major after all) but acting like its not a science at all is obtuse because looking at something that is just superstition like astral signs or horoscope it looks significantly stronger, the field has taught us a lot about the human psyche that was previous unthought of like Freud's theory of the Unconscious Mind (look into this it is big) or the Behaviorism school of thought. Both of these massive ideas were things that we had inklings of thought about but some really bright Psychologists looked into them deeper and taught all of us more about the human mind, which allows doctors and individuals to better examine someone's thoughts by their actions. I will admit that Psychologists are often corrupted like doctors are (the ones who propose ideas the gov doesn't like don't get grants or funding) but writing off the whole field is too far.
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>Reading anything from Freud
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Steve said:
Freud was a schizophrenic Jew but he wasn't stupid, sit down and listen to what he has to say and you'll probably hear bullshit but there is something to learn.
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He had a severe porn addiction and it crept into his work.
Seriously, read up all the times where a patient was having a conversation and he immediately brought up sex for no reason.
 
Soygoy said:
But I suppose what Aedra thinks is that autism isn't real, some people are just weird. Well then what does that mean for the "weird" people, should their concerns just be disregarded? It feels hard for me to even want to entertain your religion if you're saying that I am a work of satan purely because of circumstances surrounding my birth. Religious people just seem very mean and authoritarian.
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I never even implied that I'd disregard anyone's concerns. Stop demonizing me just because you disagree. If you knew the amount of evil committed in the name of the psychology you so blindly believe in, maybe you'd be able to see things from my perspective.
 
Aedra said:
I never even implied that I'd disregard anyone's concerns. Stop demonizing me just because you disagree. If you knew the amount of evil committed in the name of the psychology you so blindly believe in, maybe you'd be able to see things from my perspective.
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I'm going to give you some debate advice, if you're going to make a claim like "if you knew the amount of evil commited in the name of psychology" give an example, I notice you haven't been providing any and if you did provide a good one for Soggy (or anyone really) to read you would get your point across better.
 
Steve said:
I'm going to give you some debate advice, if you're going to make a claim like "if you knew the amount of evil commited in the name of psychology" give an example, I notice you haven't been providing any and if you did provide a good one for Soggy (or anyone really) to read you would get your point across better.
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Eugenics.
 
Aedra said:
Eugenics.
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I don't support Eugenics either but many people on these websites do for some reason.
Anyways, a lot of evil is done in science, same with religion, corrupt churches and lobotomies, the forbidden experiment etc. Doesn't make either bad, in that regard.
 
Soygoy said:
Autism is real. But if anything, I believe that "neurotypical" people are the weird ones.
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Soygoy said:
I had to reformulate my sentence because I realized this was serious and my tone wasn't serious enough, but I do genuinely believe that "neurotypicalness" is a disease that has effected 99% of the human race and that "autistic" people are normal people or remnants from a previous human species, i.e Neanderthals. Personally I dislike "neurotypicals" because all they do is shout obnoxiously, bang every chick they see and hang around the worst people possible, they have no goals for life and for some reason they feel happy working a job and being a slave to some retail company.

Some are even completely happy with wasting years of their life in an educational institution being educated on random shit for a piece of paper that says that they can do it, even though most of the time they aren't interested and they're unlikely to get a job for what they studied in anyways. That is unless they have extremely good charisma which I'm sure most of them do, I suppose.
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Holy Soygoy TRUTHNUKE, I genuinely agree with everything you've said here. I think the principles of neurodiversity are keyed because high functioning autists can be hyper-utiliitarian when taken out of neurotypical society. However, I can see why it has problems, there's definitely things that suck about autism and sometimes people downplay them, especially with the low functioning/high support needs autistic individuals. I think I'm in the hell of being less autistic *and* less high functioning than before somehow, and there isn't a day that goes by without missing my beautiful greater-autistic world.

I think most autists experience the world much more richer and beautifully than most neurotypicals, and most don't even realize unless they lose it. I wish I could say more... the greater autism used to have me monologue in a systematic-linear easy to understand way but clearly that's gone, hopefully not forever. I think the bad parts of autism have been magnified for me and the good parts minimized. That's why I admire you so much Soygoy, you're still radiating that magnificent autistic energy.

Further Reading:
www.lesswrong.com

The Intense World Theory of Autism — LessWrong

The first section is well-written and reliable, because I didn't write it, it's a book excerpt. The rest of the post is more prone to errors and spec…
www.lesswrong.com www.lesswrong.com

Study Shows Autistic Brains Create More Information at Rest | School of Medicine | School of Medicine | Case Western Reserve University

New research from Case Western Reserve University and University of Toronto neuroscientists finds that the brains of autistic children generate mor...
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Soyteen Liker said:
Holy Soygoy TRUTHNUKE, I genuinely agree with everything you've said here. I think the principles of neurodiversity are keyed because high functioning autists can be hyper-utiliitarian when taken out of neurotypical society. However, I can see why it has problems, there's definitely things that suck about autism and sometimes people downplay them, especially with the low functioning/high support needs autistic individuals. I think I'm in the hell of being less autistic *and* less high functioning than before somehow, and there isn't a day that goes by without missing my beautiful greater-autistic world.

I think most autists experience the world much more richer and beautifully than most neurotypicals, and most don't even realize unless they lose it. I wish I could say more... the greater autism used to have me monologue in a systematic-linear easy to understand way but clearly that's gone, hopefully not forever. I think the bad parts of autism have been magnified for me and the good parts minimized. That's why I admire you so much Soygoy, you're still radiating that magnificent autistic energy.

Further Reading:
www.lesswrong.com

The Intense World Theory of Autism — LessWrong

The first section is well-written and reliable, because I didn't write it, it's a book excerpt. The rest of the post is more prone to errors and spec…
www.lesswrong.com www.lesswrong.com

Study Shows Autistic Brains Create More Information at Rest | School of Medicine | School of Medicine | Case Western Reserve University

New research from Case Western Reserve University and University of Toronto neuroscientists finds that the brains of autistic children generate mor...
case.edu
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Yeah but you're wrong because god said so.
 
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