Shit No One Cares About Did shlog win? or die? you decide.

[Konata]

Kill yourself.

Sorry libshart.

 

[Nihilma]

There should be as few rules as possible. There are only two rules for a website that ever truly necessary. They are 1: don't post illegal stuff and 2: don't do anything that could get the site taken down
Anything else is just rulecuckery

No that's how you end up with /b/.
Rulecucking isn't inherently bad when it stops degeneracy from spreading.
But again I don't want this at the expense of free speech.
The silverlining between free speech and nuisance is blurry but it can be seen by the general attitude of members towards a certain user and the appreciation of the staff team ig

 

[Aedra]

But again I don't want this at the expense of free speech.

I want it to be at the expense of free speech as long as it's trannies like Konata we're censoring.

 

[Nihilma]

I want it to be at the expense of free speech as long as it's trannies like Konata we're censoring.

When it comes to pure speech, without the embedding of actions (online it's the posting of files and links), I'm a free speech extremist. I don't wanna be incoherent and the control of speech is exactly what I accuse trannies of doing in the public and academic sphere. If I do it myself i'd be an asshole

 

[Nihilma]

However, actions on a blog can also include spamming threads, mass reacting someone, making alts, idk all this stuff if it is a nuisance to other users.
If there's sufficient proof one does this, well

 

[Aedra]

When it comes to pure speech, without the embedding of actions (online it's the posting of files and links), I'm a free speech extremist. I don't wanna be incoherent and the control of speech is exactly what I accuse trannies of doing in the public and academic sphere. If I do it myself i'd be an asshole

You wouldn't be. You'd just be enforcing your own values as all before you have. Since you're Christian I wanna ask you, how do you think Christianity won against pagans in the Roman Empire? Did we preach "le free speech" once we got in power? No. We oppressed the pagans, banned degeneracy, and kept everyone in line. Life is inherently hierarchical and this "freedom" bullshit is destined to never last, opposing ideas can't just 'get along', they are destined to compete.

 

[Konata]

No that's how you end up with /b/.
Rulecucking isn't inherently bad when it stops degeneracy from spreading.
But again I don't want this at the expense of free speech.
The silverlining between free speech and nuisance is blurry but it can be seen by the general attitude of members towards a certain user and the appreciation of the staff team ig

/b/ is only bad because it's popular. same thing happened with /soy/. with the sharty, it goes to show that even with rulecucking it still turns out shit. any rule that disallows something that doesn't effect people being able to access the website is completely arbitrary and only exists to limit what people can say (which is le bad)

I want it to be at the expense of free speech as long as it's trannies like Konata we're censoring.

i'm sorry your feelings got hurt. i only drop redpills with every post i make, so i can see how a little libcuck soysissy numale would get offended by them.

degeneracy

do you have a tradcath xitter account by any chance?

 

[Aedra]

do you have a tradcath xitter account by any chance?

No.

 

[Nihilma]

You wouldn't be. You'd just be enforcing your own values as all before you have. Since you're Christian I wanna ask you, how do you think Christianity won against pagans in the Roman Empire? Did we preach "le free speech" once we got in power? No. We oppressed the pagans, banned degeneracy, and kept everyone in line. Life is inherently hierarchial and this "freedom" bullshit is destined to never last, opposing ideas can't just 'get along', they are destined to compete.

Christiannity really did spread not through the oppression of other thought but the conversion through perseverence. That is how Constantine converted, and unlike what modern pagan larpers claim, is also how the norse became christian.
There was no incursion to put them into submission. they willingly converted, and that, after massacring a lot of missionaries.

Whenever christianity tried to oppress other thought it didn't spread correctly and matter of fact even broke into schisms and heresies, as attested by the first century gnostics and protestants later. Oppression of thought always backfired.
Only through rationalisation and the destruction of the other's logic have we advanced. Gnosticism wasn't trampled with fire, but with the work of Iraneus, Augustine, et cetera

 

[Nihilma]

/b/ is only bad because it's popular. same thing happened with /soy/. with the sharty, it goes to show that even with rulecucking it still turns out shit. any rule that disallows something that doesn't effect people being able to access the website is completely arbitrary and only exists to limit what people can say (which is le bad)

Youtube is also popular yet a lot less degenerate, because it doesn't allow degeneracy in the first place. Any kind of NSFW is banned. And degeneracy is manifested into actions, because words can't allow you to stimulate your senses to the degeneracy you are describing. That is why foodists and trannies and nazi larpers always end their debates with either gore / 'P or generic disgusting NSFW. Their speech means nothing if they can't act, because their speech is weak and their actions revulting. If you take away their ability to do this, they leave.

 

[Aedra]

Only through rationalisation and the destruction of the other's logic have we advanced. Gnosticism wasn't trampled with fire, but with the work of Iraneus, Augustine, et cetera

Westoid cope. That logic is what destroyed you. Won't elaborate much though, this isn't the thread for it.

 

[Konata]

Youtube is also popular yet a lot less degenerate, because it doesn't allow degeneracy in the first place. Any kind of NSFW is banned. And degeneracy is manifested into actions, because words can't allow you to stimulate your senses to the degeneracy you are describing. That is why foodists and trannies and nazi larpers always end their debates with either gore / 'P or generic disgusting NSFW. Their speech means nothing if they can't act, because their speech is weak and their actions revulting. If you take away their ability to do this, they leave.

youtube is shit but in a different way. it's far too sanitized and monetized. i think an online community should really only be a couple hundred members at the most. then they can self-regulate with no need for rulecucking.

 

[Nihilma]

youtube is shit but in a different way. it's far too sanitized and monetized. i think an online community should really only be a couple hundred members at the most. then they can self-regulate with no need for rulecucking.

It is sanitized and monetized but for different reasons than what we're talking about : Greed.
My point still applies.
Having a large community isn't an inherently bad thing otherwise science wouldn't work and the existence of countries too. Both work. It's what is allowed and what isn't that is the problem. On der 'cord, you have very small yet horribly degenerate communities, for this exact reason.

 

[Konata]

It is sanitized and monetized but for different reasons than what we're talking about : Greed.
My point still applies.
Having a large community isn't an inherently bad thing otherwise science wouldn't work and the existence of countries too. Both work. It's what is allowed and what isn't that is the problem. On der 'cord, you have very small yet horribly degenerate communities, for this exact reason.

i don’t want to get too far apart from the original point but i think humans would be much better off if we never developed past living in villages. too much bad shit comes from lots of people being connected.
those discord faggots would do it regardless of if it were allowed or not. discord has rules against it, that’s why they get banned so often. even on youtube you can find some horrible shit (think: pedo rings, actual porn, baby monkey torture) so it being against the rules doesn’t affect if an undesirable would use the site. people get far too overzealous when making rules and it always leads to rulecucking, even if it takes years to get there

 

[Nihilma]

i don’t want to get too far apart from the original point but i think humans would be much better off if we never developed past living in villages. too much bad shit comes from lots of people being connected.
those discord faggots would do it regardless of if it were allowed or not. discord has rules against it, that’s why they get banned so often. even on youtube you can find some horrible shit (think: pedo rings, actual porn, baby monkey torture) so it being against the rules doesn’t affect if an undesirable would use the site. people get far too overzealous when making rules and it always leads to rulecucking, even if it takes years to get there

Yeah but making rules against it allows to ban these mfs, even if repeatedly, were as allowing degeneracy in any form encourages them to continue and worsen their habbits. At least, it discourages such behaviour.

 

[Konata]

Yeah but making rules against it allows to ban these mfs, even if repeatedly, were as allowing degeneracy in any form encourages them to continue and worsen their habbits. At least, it discourages such behaviour.

the community will also naturally be hostile to anything they don’t like, so it’s often not necessary to have very many rules. besides, not having a rule against something isn’t an endorsement of that behavior.

 

[Nihilma]

the community will also naturally be hostile to anything they don’t like, so it’s often not necessary to have very many rules. besides, not having a rule against something isn’t an endorsement of that behavior.

It is because if something isn't banned, it means it's permitted, and if it is permitted, then the staff cannot act against it, hence it is endorsed
Also, hostility falls under free speech. So whether or not something is banned that should always be permitted, but if it comes from users who don't have any power to act against actions, then there's a problem because speech cannot do much against actions. That's why rules and jannies are there.
Also it isn't "many rules" to simply say "Anything NSFW isn't allowed on the site".

 

[Chesnaught]

It's active, it's just not super active. It comes in waves, I think. The only way to get more members is to shill the site, but doing that isn't very easy because 1. Froot doesn't really want us to do it on the party, and 2. Sharing with anyone else would be odd, and probably not great for the site, assuming people are coming in from Discord or other sites. If you have IRLs and you want to tell them about the site though, I guess that's not too terrible, but I don't see why you would want to.

 

[Nihilma]

Shilling to 'cord is how the site dies geg

 

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