CHANGE MY MIND: Soyjaks are actually apolitical if you think otherwise you missed the whole point

nuxTacoClearpillPurist said:
"I'm a baby or a tranny or something and gay"

faggotkikekikekike

"I'm french or somewhere"

bonjour monsieur nigeur

"things are contradictory or something"

yep, and yet you may hold multiple principles with different priorities without any contradiction. If you can't understand your enemies you should listen and not speak when politics are discussed.

"wait wait those principles are right wing actually"

are they right wing when applied under universalism to every culture? Even outside leftist combinations, universal borderless absolutism on liberty (liberalism) or fraternity (globalism) are obvious forms of leftism directly descended from the french revolution.

"but wait if liberty is leftist then liberty to mock has to be leftist"

Perhaps they would afford you that right or perhaps they wouldn't. A practical matter around which principle either adapts or shatters has no relevance on the essence, the aspirations of a philosophy. Nor does the existence of hypocrites lower an ideal.

"uhhh my pussy hurts and it is a real pussy btw USDA certified"

Oddly enough, only the tranny has any good take. These examples still create a hierarchy, but it is a hierarchy of judgement by their philosophy, of le righteous marxoids over the heckin hypocritical priestrichmankingnobility SCUMBAGS. This still defeats the argument that mockery is strictly right wing. I would argue that mockery is right wing whenever it operates on characteristics of liveliness.
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>words words words
right cant meme
 
nametroon said:
>consumerism? low t? feigned excitement??? no, fellow 'teen, we were making fun of leftists and their beliefs. now here, lemme send you an invite to our Atomwaffen server
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The idea that low testosterone is bad is only a belief in ideologies that value masculinity. While an individual can be low test and have any ideology, mocking an abstract low test male would be mocking only ideologies which think that low testosterone is acceptable. Besides, low test males tend to be overwhelmingly leftist anyway.

The same goes for every other aspect of soyjaks. While you may see a consumerist chud with low test, his ideology doesn't support those things, and neither do the people that follow them on average. The fact that you are using chudjak in order to mock right wingers proves my point, soyjaks are for leftists.
 
nuxTacoClearpillPurist said:
Babyjak is pedophile gay furry or however I post DNB on 'cord
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Marge babyjak is one of the sole instances of babies being used in internet culture without them being sexualized and just mocked for their funny nonsense
nuxTacoClearpillPurist said:
yep, and yet you may hold multiple principles with different priorities without any contradictions
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Liberty and equality are not different priorities, but opposed endgoals. Liberty ultimately undermines equality because it opposes standardization and control. And for equality you need both of these things. If you try to reach an equilibrium you will end up with contradictions on a very practical level, be they grave or not.
nuxTacoClearpillPurist said:
are they right wing when applied under universalism to every culture? Even outside leftist combinations, universal borderless absolutism on liberty (liberalism) or fraternity (globalism) are obvious forms of leftism directly descended from the french revolution.
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Tbh I hate the terms left anf right because they vary from one country to the other and from one period of time to the other.
As I said above even liberty is something you define arbitrarily. During the frog revolution, liberty was ironically lost on a lot of things for the average french citizen, which really showed during the terror, but some were gained. Before, court rulling was a nice convenience to make law, after, it became rulecucking.
Also fraternity is definitely something claimed by the right for the nation, while strotskicucks claim this value for the whole world and not just a nation.
So yeah they're not just left-wing, unless you actually DEFINE left wing as being that.
nuxTacoClearpillPurist said:
Perhaps they would afford you that right or perhaps they wouldn't. A practical matter around which principle either adapts or shatters has no relevance on the essence, the aspirations of a philosophy. Nor does the existence of hypocrites lower an ideal.
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I mean yes it does, if you claim A but do B, no matter how much you claim to be A you are B. muh axewound is opening again help it triggers my gender dysphori-ACK.
If every leftist government has claimed to be more freedom of speech oriented, yet in application only manage the most rule-cucked and censored public spaces when it comes to speech and thought, yes you are a hypocrit and yes it lowers an ideal because it displays it's most basic incoherencies.
From the french revolution to modern communist regimes, you have WAY more freedom of speech in any capitalist state.
Muh hierarchy created by mocking
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See ? Either you obsess over equality and affirm that some speech goes against equality and thus not only freedom of action but ALSO freedom of speech needs to be rule cucked, or you affirm that freedom of speech is more important and equality serves no good to anyone and get hierarchies because of freedom.

Armchair politics and philosophies.
Go back to leftypol honestly
Inb4
>Did Vaush just BTFO ???
Horse
 
Babykike, you would be better off if you were retarded. Nowhere has anyone you've called a leftist advocated leftism. You fail to comprehend a world of ideas separate from the material. You constantly use reasoning that would be improved by several passes through google translate and chatGPT. You admit that the principles you treasure as your country's motto are contradictory in their full form and are only compatible in moderate/prioritized forms. What do you think your motto means then? True believer leftists follow a version of your country's motto, whether competently or otherwise. Finally, you cede the main original point of the poster you engaged with but claim it as your own. "Mockery... creates a hierarchy... it is right wing! Soyjaks... are right wing!" This is a fascinating maneuver to preserve your ego while realigning with truth, but it reveals that you lack a dedication to truth to match your attachment to a perception of self. As per typical of an accountant.

Guestwaffen, sieg heil!
 
Guest said:
You admit that the principles you treasure as your country's motto are contradictory in their full form and are only compatible in moderate/prioritized forms. What do you think your motto means then?
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I don't treasure this motto geg. I said "I love my country", and two lines under "I hate my country". This is called an anthithesis and is figure of speech used to emphasize a joke. Gotta start learning to read.
Finally, you cede the main original point of the poster you engaged with but claim it as your own. "Mockery... creates a hierarchy... it is right wing! Soyjaks... are right wing!" This is a fascinating maneuver to preserve your ego while realigning with truth, but it reveals that you lack a dedication to truth to match your attachment to a perception of self. As per typical of an accountant.
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Are you retarded ? I haven't changed position that's what I said since the very beginning. Also Op said soyjaks are apolitical, I said drinking soy and eating the bugs isn't. Endless babbling and adressing ZERO of my points.

Lemme rephrase them for you : The motto of my country is retarded. It is proposing opposite ideologies. Freedom is for the right, equality if for the left. So no, the motto isn't used by leftists because leftism doesn't advocate for freedom, even if on the surface it tries to embed it into it's propaganda. "True believer leftists" also is a fallacy. "No real scotman" fallacy.

Again, go back to leftypol
 
"No real scotsman" fallacy isn't real. You need to explain why that argument applies. It doesn't. The definition of leftist could be: "someone who truly believes in the principles of the french revolution." It could also be a casual "anyone who attends a BLM protest" "anyone who says they are leftist" "anyone who opposes my ideal of freedom".
 
scotsman said:
"No real scotsman" fallacy isn't real. You need to explain why that argument applies. It doesn't. The definition of leftist could be: "someone who truly believes in the principles of the french revolution." It could also be a casual "anyone who attends a BLM protest" "anyone who says they are leftist" "anyone who opposes my ideal of freedom".
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Okay, well I think the definition of leftism, as a political trend that evolved from the french revolution up to modern marxism can be defined as "the search for absolute equality and the destruction of segregationnal norms" (segregation not as in racism or whatever but in terms of differentiating people based on defined parameters). I believe that this definition is a good representation of the axioms of all political proposals made by the left, be it in regards to economy, culture, et cetera

And I believe that in such terms, freedom goes the opposite way, and thus the search for freedom is the definition of the right, who's only basis is ultimately the law of the strongest.

That is for the theories at the base of left and right. Ultimately, there are multiple interpretations of the consequences of these axioms.
 
TeeRanney said:
Since the 19th century leftists have used satirical magazines to popularize their ideas and they actively mocked their opponents in them.

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This was to communicate a simple pre-constructed way of thinking to leftist union workers, who were predominantly low iq

'jaks are made to express complex ideas criticizing numales (who are usually left leaning) into a simple image that speaks a thousand words
 
Soyboys were obviously initially a way to make fun of the left but the western left has become so inundated with 30 year old punks and shit colored third world genetic materia that instead of defending the "soyboy" archetype they are pretending they are completely different from it. The Soyboy is really supposed to be a right-wing attack on "white cishetero male" "allies" but the left has become so resentful that it also sort of hates these types and views them with suspicion now
 

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