Add /incel/ or /bp/

[lifesucksthenyoudie]

I would love british pound rates and black prisoners as a topic. I could spend all day talking about the inflation of the uk post brexit, and don't get me started on those blackies!

Just use /pol/

 

[Aedra]

No, the earliest agenda was making women think they were free. If women were truly free they'd still date men and be kind. However, being oppressed, even if you think you aren't, makes you mean and spiteful, we see this throughout history.

Holy fucking shit, you might just be an actual cuckold. Might aswell pay for your hecking white qween's onlyfans next time. Tell me what holds any woman back today? What freedom do they not enjoy? They have the same chivalric protection they had for thousands of years and on top of that are considered legally equal, that right there is equality and privilege without responsibility, how can you claim they aren't free?

 

[X Immigrant]

>Holy fucking shit, you might just be an actual cuckold. Might as well pay for your hecking white qweens onlyfans next time.

Tell me what holds any woman back today? What freedom do they not enjoy? They have the same chivalric protection they had for thousands of years

They're physically inferior(I believe this ofc) yet don't deserve protection? Also this 'chivalric protection' is not displayed often on streets during dark nights.

and on top of that are considered legally equal, that right there is equality and privilege without responsibility, how can you claim they aren't free?

You're missing the point. Women and men are both legally equal, as it should be. However we're both lower than the Jew.

 

[Aedra]

You're missing the point. Women and men are both legally equal, as it should be.

If you want your people to go extinct, sure.

 

[X Immigrant]

If you want your people to go extinct, sure.
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This in fact coincides with the end of WWII but sure

 

[Aedra]

This in fact coincides with the end of WWII but sure

I'm sorry mate but you're just coping by saying that, genuinely no offense intended. I can tell you haven't taken the Orthopill fully yet, you still espouse too many westoid ideas on how things should be. That will inevitably change in time as you read the teachings of the saints though.

However we're both lower than the Jew.

Also this is true but you're using it as an excuse to hold women back from responsibility. No right comes without work and responsibility, and the fact is women simply don't do as much work as a man does. I don't see Ukrainian or Russian women dying for their countries. Why should we be considered equal to women when we have to do more than them? That's not how equality works.

 

[Bastard]

Holy fucking shit, you might just be an actual cuckold. Might aswell pay for your hecking white qween's onlyfans next time. Tell me what holds any woman back today? What freedom do they not enjoy? They have the same chivalric protection they had for thousands of years and on top of that are considered legally equal, that right there is equality and privilege without responsibility, how can you claim they aren't free?

Who hurt you?

 

[Nihilma]

Also this is true but you're using it as an excuse to hold women back from responsibility. No right comes without work and responsibility, and the fact is women simply don't do as much work as a man does. I don't see Ukrainian or Russian women dying for their countries. Why should we be considered equal to women when we have to do more than them? That's not how equality works.

Orthopill orthopill you realize the EO still accepts the Bible, and Paul teaches that "in Christ men and women are made equals" (Actually it says something in the likes "In christ there is no greek nor jew, no male nor female")(Glatians 3:28). The first disciples to discover the empty tombs were women, the most venerated saint is a woman, and the Bible continuously talks about the complementariness of men and women. Feminism is as bad an ideology as the redpill or however women hurt me in my teenagehood.

Men and women are not opposites, they do not fight each other, they complement each other, and while the woman owes respect and obedience to her husband, a man owes love and respect to her wife (ephesians 5:22)

 

[Aedra]

Orthopill orthopill you realize the EO still accepts the Bible, and Paul teaches that "in Christ men and women are made equals" (Actually it says something in the likes "In christ there is no greek nor jew, no male nor female")(Glatians 3:28). The first disciples to discover the empty tombs were women, the most venerated saint is a woman, and the Bible continuously talks about the complementariness of men and women. Feminism is as bad an ideology as the redpill or however women hurt me in my teenagehood.

Men and women are not opposites, they do not fight each other, they complement each other, and while the woman owes respect and obedience to her husband, a man owes love and respect to her wife (ephesians 5:22)

Bla bla bla. Overreliance on rationalism as expected from a westoid. The Bible says what it says and it is holy, but to interpret it is up to the Church Fathers, Holy Tradition. Let's see what they have to say, shall we?

ORIGEN OF ALEXANDRIA

“Men should not sit and listen to a woman … ‘For it is improper for a woman to speak in an assembly,’ no matter what she says, even if she says admirable things, or even saintly things, that is of little consequence, since they come from the mouth of a woman.”
Fragments on 1 Corinthians 74

“What is seen with the eyes of the Creator is masculine, and not feminine, for God does not stoop to look upon what is feminine and of the flesh.”
Selecta in Exodum (Fragments on Exodus), Patrologia Graeca 12, Column 296–297

IRENAEUS

In a discussion about why Miriam was punished more harshly than Aaron when they both criticised Moses, Irenaeus states that “both nature and the law place the woman in a subordinate condition to the man.”
Irenaeus, Fragment 32

TERTULLIAN

”And do you not know that you are (each) an Eve? The sentence of God on this sex of yours lives in this age: the guilt must of necessity live too. You are the devil’s gateway: you are the unsealer of that (forbidden) tree: you are the first deserter of the divine law: you are she who persuaded him whom the devil was not valiant enough to attack. You destroyed so easily God’s image, man. On account of your desert—that is, death—even the Son of God had to die. And do you think about adorning yourself over and above your tunics of skins?”
De Cultu Feminarium (On the Apparel of Women), Chapter 1

JOHN CHRYSOSTOM

“The woman taught once, and ruined all. On this account therefore he says, let her not teach. But what is it to other women, that she suffered this? It certainly concerns them; for the sex is weak and fickle, and he is speaking of the sex collectively.”
Homily 9 on First Timothy

“Man was first formed, and elsewhere he shows their superiority.”
Homily 9 on First Timothy

“God maintained the order of each sex by dividing the business of life into two parts, and assigned the more necessary and beneficial aspects to the man and the less important, inferior matter to the woman.”
The Kind of Women who ought to be taken as Wives

“Hearken about the women of old; they were great characters, great women and admirable; such were Sarah, Rebekah, Rachel, Deborah, and Hannah; and such there were also in the days of Christ. Yet did they in no case outstrip the men, but occupied the second rank.”
Homily 13 on Ephesians

You want me to go on? Because there are far more.

 

[Nihilma]

Bla bla bla. Overreliance on rationalism as expected from a westoid. The Bible says what it says and it is holy, but to interpret it is up to the Church Fathers, Holy Tradition. Let's see what they have to say, shall we?

ORIGEN OF ALEXANDRIA


IRENAEUS

TERTULLIAN

JOHN CHRYSOSTOM




You want me to go on? Because there are far more.

Origen is not a saint btw.
Also yeah interpretation interpretation I think that you don't havr to put your brain on the side to understand what Paul says when Paul says :

Husbands, love your wives, as Christ loved the church and gave himself up for her,
[26] that he might sanctify her, having cleansed her by the washing of water with the word,
[27] that he might present the church to himself in splendor, without spot or wrinkle or any such thing, that she might be holy and without blemish.
[28] Even so husbands should love their wives as their own bodies. He who loves his wife loves himself.
[29] For no man ever hates his own flesh, but nourishes and cherishes it, as Christ does the church,
[30] because we are members of his body.
[31] "For this reason a man shall leave his father and mother and be joined to his wife, and the two shall become one flesh."
[32] This mystery is a profound one, and I am saying that it refers to Christ and the church;
[33] however, let each one of you love his wife as himself, and let the wife see that she respects her husband:

If you claim not to understand what Paul says but understand what the Saints says, you are a hypocrit. And Saints after Paul are not more important than Paul himself, an Apostle of Christ.

 

[Aedra]

Origen is not a saint btw.
Also yeah interpretation interpretation I think that you don't havr to put your brain on the side to understand what Paul says when Paul says :

Husbands, love your wives, as Christ loved the church and gave himself up for her,
[26] that he might sanctify her, having cleansed her by the washing of water with the word,
[27] that he might present the church to himself in splendor, without spot or wrinkle or any such thing, that she might be holy and without blemish.
[28] Even so husbands should love their wives as their own bodies. He who loves his wife loves himself.
[29] For no man ever hates his own flesh, but nourishes and cherishes it, as Christ does the church,
[30] because we are members of his body.
[31] "For this reason a man shall leave his father and mother and be joined to his wife, and the two shall become one flesh."
[32] This mystery is a profound one, and I am saying that it refers to Christ and the church;
[33] however, let each one of you love his wife as himself, and let the wife see that she respects her husband:

If you claim not to understand what Paul says but understand what the Saints says, you are a hypocrit. And Saints after Paul are not more important than Paul himself, an Apostle of Christ.

He says love your wives, not whores. A whore isn't worthy of respect. You quoted a lot of Bible verses that doesn't contradict anything the saints say. You should also quote the part where it says this if you want to be an honest man, and not a westernized hypocrite.

 

[Nihilma]

He says love your wives, not whores. A whore isn't worthy of respect. You quoted a lot of Bible verses that doesn't contradict anything the saints say. You should also quote the part where it says this if you want to be an honest man, and not a westernized hypocrite.
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I know this verse. I don't argue against it.
I believe wives should submit to men, that women should not teach in Church, et cetera. But I also believe what Paul tells me about the equality born from the life in Christ, and I also respect the most important of saints : Mary, and recognize the respect Jesus had for women around him. And again, as Genesis says, men and women are built for one another.

And about Church Fathers, always remember that whatever they say outside of councils, even if wise, is not infaillible. They may be subject to error, unlike what is daid and decided in councils, and the whole Bible has been declared in coucils as being inspired by God.

Also, this still doesn't mean you don't owe respect and love to people, even "whores".
You have to condemn them, never approve of what they do.
If they are christians, deny them communion until they repent, if they've commited crimes, punish them for it.

But to the woman who commited adultery and was about to be stoned, Jesus himself said, after all left at his order "That the one who never sinned cast the first stone" : "Then I do not condemn you myself. Go and sin no more".

All and all, I do agree with you if your claim is that sin as a whole is to be condemned. Yes. But the sinner must still be loved, as Jesus loved them. Some modern christians, especially online converts absolutely hate the quote of Jesus saying "love your ennemy", but it is a bible verse nonetheless, no matter how many "westoid" insults you throw at me.
Sin must be hated, not the sinner.

 

[Aedra]

I know this verse. I don't argue against it.
I believe wives should submit to men, that women should not teach in Church, et cetera. But I also believe what Paul tells me about the equality born from the life in Christ, and I also respect the most important of saints : Mary, and recognize the respect Jesus had for women around him. And again, as Genesis says, men and women are built for one another.

And about Church Fathers, always remember that whatever they say outside of councils, even if wise, is not infaillible. They may be subject to error, unlike what is daid and decided in councils, and the whole Bible has been declared in coucils as being inspired by God.

Also, this still doesn't mean you don't owe respect and love to people, even "whores".
You have to condemn them, never approve of what they do.
If they are christians, deny them communion until they repent, if they've commited crimes, punish them for it.

But to the woman who commited adultery and was about to be stoned, Jesus himself said, after all left at his order "That the one who never sinned cast the first stone" : "Then I do not condemn you myself. Go and sin no more".

All and all, I do agree with you if your claim is that sin as a whole is to be condemned. Yes. But the sinner must still be loved, as Jesus loved them. Some modern christians, especially online converts absolutely hate the quote of Jesus saying "love your ennemy", but it is a bible verse nonetheless, no matter how many "westoid" insults you throw at me.
Sin must be hated, not the sinner.

I don't give a fuck how you think things should be. I only care about what the Orthodox Church says. I also love that part where you cope by saying the saints may be in error or whatever, you wouldn't say that for anything else, you only say it because it involves this sensitive topic. Always soft, trying to avoid offending others, this is why you're destined to lose.

 

[scar]

/incel/ - Involuntary Celibate
/bp/ - Blackpill

Kill yourself

 

[Weebhunter3000]

Shit nobody cares about enthusiasts above me.

 

[Nihilma]

I don't give a fuck how you think things should be. I only care about what the Orthodox Church says. I also love that part where you cope by saying the saints may be in error or whatever, you wouldn't say that for anything else, you only say it because it involves this sensitive topic. Always soft, trying to avoid offending others, this is why you're destined to lose.

Holy fucking shit, the scriptures are binding to every believer, catholic, orthodox or whatever.
Also it's not cope, if you hadn't noticed by now I am really invested in theology and might end up studying that myself. I'm not even catholic or orthodox to begin with, so I don't yet believe in the infaillibility of everything apart the Bible. I'm using YOUR OWN theology here.
Look I'm gonna do my part. Rn I'm studying, but I'm going to do my research, and reiterate EVERYTHING I've said using only saints, Church Father, bishops and Eucumenical Patriarchs, if that's what you truly want.
At some point you're going to have to realize that the faith doesn't bend to what you want it to ne, but observes a very strict truth that you either have to follow strictly or abandon.

 

[Aedra]

Holy fucking shit, the scriptures are binding to every believer, catholic, orthodox or whatever.
Also it's not cope, if you hadn't noticed by now I am really invested in theology and might end up studying that myself. I'm not even catholic or orthodox to begin with, so I don't yet believe in the infaillibility of everything apart the Bible. I'm using YOUR OWN theology here.
Look I'm gonna do my part. Rn I'm studying, but I'm going to do my research, and reiterate EVERYTHING I've said using only saints, Church Father, bishops and Eucumenical Patriarchs, if that's what you truly want.
At some point you're going to have to realize that the faith doesn't bend to what you want it to ne, but observes a very strict truth that you either have to follow strictly or abandon.

Honestly I'd rather not discuss this anymore. If we're gonna autistically argue then it would be better to do it in a single thread instead of shitting up other threads like we are doing rn. No point in this.

 

[Nihilma]

Honestly I'd rather not discuss this anymore. If we're gonna autistically argue then it would be better to do it in a single thread instead of shitting up other threads like we are doing rn. No point in this.

Alright you're right.
If you DO wanna discuss this more though I'm absolutely willing to do it, in no hate nor insults but just as christians trying to approach the truth.

 

[AshkeNazi]

[W]e're both lower than the Jew.

good

 

[(In)CelibatePsycho]

if the demand is high enough for it, not sure why you dont just use incels.is albeit

Incels.is is demoralizing and probably filled with larping redditors and trannies
I think you should add this board, maybe we could advertise it on .is and convert the incels there into quality newteens