Discussion I was pushed into this space...

[WH15KeY]

As a young teen boy I was rather bluepilled. I thought incels were wicked men who blamed their sexual failures on the women they lusted after...

When I was 16 I feel in love with a woman. During our chats, I was rather passive, docile, depressing, but always sweet and caring. I never said a bad word about women...

Yet in the end, this lady said I had "incel traits" because I was "self-loathing"

The blackpill is true.

Even if I somehow get a wife and kids, I shall still never taste the pleasures of adolescent love. I will forever be a stranger to those heartwarming feelings of teenage love.

 

[Aedra]

Water is wet. I don't get this weird obsession with "muh teenage love" doe. Incel niggas idealize relationships a lot but it's not as fun as they think it is with modern women. There are worse things than loneliness.

 

[WH15KeY]

Water is wet. I don't get this weird obsession with "muh teenage love" doe. Incel niggas idealize relationships a lot but it's not as fun as they think it is with modern women. There are worse things than loneliness.

Can you retype this in English? Do not speak to me in this manner.

 

[Aedra]

>can you retype this in english? do not speak to me in this manner

 

[ILoveVesna]

>>can you retype this in english? do not speak to me in this manner
>The uploaded file is too large.

 

[Nihilma]

I simply don't get it personally.
To me, incels are the exact same as feminists who say "all men are trash", because those who rape the most are men, and those who get raped the most are women.
Also, didn't you just confirm your first impression ? You said you thought "incels were wicked men who blamed their sexual failures on the women they lusted after", and you embraced the blackpill after a woman you loved called you an incel.

Also, does every man who gets called an incel remain an inel his whole life ? Or is it those who embrace incelhood that most likely remain it ? This in psychology is called a self-fulfilling prophecy, you have a theory about someone, you act in accordance to your theory, renderring your theory true.

The blackpill or incel movement is the exact same thing to me as feminism, and both are contributing to low birth rates in the west. The only thing that brings me peace to a degree is that at least the weed is gonna get bred out if they truly remain incels their whole lives.

 

[WH15KeY]

I simply don't get it personally.
To me, incels are the exact same as feminists who say "all men are trash", because those who rape the most are men, and those who get raped the most are women.
Also, didn't you just confirm your first impression ? You said you thought "incels were wicked men who blamed their sexual failures on the women they lusted after", and you embraced the blackpill after a woman you loved called you an incel.

Also, does every man who gets called an incel remain an inel his whole life ? Or is it those who embrace incelhood that most likely remain it ? This in psychology is called a self-fulfilling prophecy, you have a theory about someone, you act in accordance to your theory, renderring your theory true.

The blackpill or incel movement is the exact same thing to me as feminism, and both are contributing to low birth rates in the west. The only thing that brings me peace to a degree is that at least the weed is gonna get bred out if they truly remain incels their whole lives.

I agree in general with everything typed... but I should be more clear.

The girl called me an "incel" after she lied about liking me, sexted with a child (she was 18) because I was upset about her leading me on.

I just think it is funny that "incel" pretty much just means mentally ill man at this point. I don't even think it has much to do with looks these days.

I see the entirety of inceldom as more of a mental health struggle than any real social movement. Comparing that to feminism is a little off-base.

I think at some point in every man's life, he struggles with women or feels rather jaded towards the dating scene. Even ones who have had sexual success.

Most men don't go to an internet forum that fixates on it.

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[WH15KeY]

Water is wet. I don't get this weird obsession with "muh teenage love" doe. Incel niggas idealize relationships a lot but it's not as fun as they think it is with modern women. There are worse things than loneliness.

But yeah, I was homeschooled, hahaha.

So I missed out on "teenage everything"

From what I've seen though, most high school relationships are god-awful. It would seem a lot of folks have this fantasy of meeting a high school sweetheart, but they don't understand how rare that is.

 

[WH15KeY]

There has been a push by certain forces in the American news media to paint the disenfranchised as the ones who are actually privileged and lashed out due to some sort of entitlement.

This is especially easy to do if the person was white.

For incels or any dissident figure to remain hated... he/she cannot be seen as a victim under any circumstance.

Inceldom cannot be a legitimate mental/social issue... it would be unbecoming to pick on the mentally ill

So the media will have to find a way to redefine as it as something that makes it okay to hate/bully

"Male entitlement"

"Future rapists"

"School shooters"


This is a tool that can and has been used by anyone.

 

[Nihilma]

I see the entirety of inceldom as more of a mental health struggle than any real social movement. Comparing that to feminism is a little off-base.

Mostly talking about the consequences and the source.
>You're a woman and had bad experiences with men ? Start hating men
>You're a man and had bad experiences with women ? Start hating women
Doe, unlike feminism incelhood isn't yet a grand cultural phenomenon, and I hope it never becomes one geg.

I just think it is funny that "incel" pretty much just means mentally ill man at this point. I don't even think it has much to do with looks these days.
I think at some point in every man's life, he struggles with women or feels rather jaded towards the dating scene. Even ones who have had sexual success.
Most men don't go to an internet forum that fixates on it.

Yeah, trvke. A very common commorbidity for this is also social ineptitude, which is then reinforced by participation in these groups and reinforces the first belief, and this leads to a downwards spiral where your identity revolves around being an incel.

It's just sad imo

 

[WH15KeY]

Mostly talking about the consequences and the source.
>You're a woman and had bad experiences with men ? Start hating men
>You're a man and had bad experiences with women ? Start hating women
Doe, unlike feminism incelhood isn't yet a grand cultural phenomenon, and I hope it never becomes one geg.

Yeah, trvke. A very common commorbidity for this is also social ineptitude, which is then reinforced by participation in these groups and reinforces the first belief, and this leads to a downwards spiral where your identity revolves around being an incel.

It's just sad imo

Haha, I agree pretty much.

 

[Nihilma]

But yeah, I was homeschooled, hahaha.

So I missed out on "teenage everything"

From what I've seen though, most high school relationships are god-awful. It would seem a lot of folks have this fantasy of meeting a high school sweetheart, but they don't understand how rare that is.

All my parents, uncles, grand parents et cetera never had sex until they were like 20-25 when they got married.
I think it was still pretty common at the time, but with the fucking attention-span of 2 yos modern 'teens have thanks to the internet, they want everything as young as possible and "if you don't have sex at 16 you're never gonna have sex ever lol"

 

[Aedra]

The blackpill or incel movement is the exact same thing to me as feminism, and both are contributing to low birth rates in the west. The only thing that brings me peace to a degree is that at least the weed is gonna get bred out if they truly remain incels their whole lives.

Just lol at thinking some internet ideology most people irl have never even heard of is contributing to low birth rates. You're trying to sound like your take is some super rational unique take. It isn't. You're just fence sitting.

Also, unlike feminists, incels would take almost any woman who shows interest in them and most of them would be willing to make children too. How can "i want to find a woman but they don't want me" be contributing to low birth rates nigga? The women in question would not want them even if they didn't point that out. Feminism promotes anti-natalism among women, blackpill doesn't promote natalism or anti-natalism, it simply focuses on the facts at hand and lets you deal with it in whatever way you want.

 

[Aedra]

The only thing that brings me peace to a degree is that at least the weed is gonna get bred out if they truly remain incels their whole lives.

And this part. You're saying you're glad they will never get what they want, so much for your Christian morals. Mercy and compassion only applies when it's certain groups of people, when it's men then it's always just "man up" or something worse, such as you saying you're glad they will never have children. This is why I keep getting mad at you and calling you a fake Christian nigga, you don't strive to actually embody the teachings, you just pick the parts you like and ignore the rest.

 

[(In)CelibatePsycho]

And this part. You're saying you're glad they will never get what they want, so much for your Christian morals. Mercy and compassion only applies when it's certain groups of people, when it's men then it's always just "man up" or something worse, such as you saying you're glad they will never have children. This is why I keep getting mad at you and calling you a fake Christian nigga, you don't strive to actually embody the teachings, you just pick the parts you like and ignore the rest.

I am a spineless retard who will agree with people who hate me and my people if they give me any pushback whatsoever

 

[WH15KeY]

And this part. You're saying you're glad they will never get what they want, so much for your Christian morals. Mercy and compassion only applies when it's certain groups of people, when it's men then it's always just "man up" or something worse, such as you saying you're glad they will never have children. This is why I keep getting mad at you and calling you a fake Christian nigga, you don't strive to actually embody the teachings, you just pick the parts you like and ignore the rest.

He strikes me as a man who is more interested in having the Christian label because he loathes being associated with the internet brand of atheism.

Most right-leaning people know the religious stuff is bullshit, but they would rather attach some spirituality to their ideas to give them more power.

These individuals frustrate me to no end.

"Facts don't care about your feelings, but I believe in Sky-Daddy"

 

[WH15KeY]

I never got into the online "incel" sub-culture because it was full of nasty people.

They ban you for talking about jbw, half of them are fakecels, etc...

Incels are a real phenomenon, surely, but you have to understand that many people sneak into that space because they just want a trendy label to avoid their actual shortcomings.

 

[Aedra]

Most right-leaning people know the religious stuff is bullshit, but they would rather attach some spirituality to their ideas to give them more power.

Depends on which "right wing" it is. I know the American right wing isn't even much religious anymore, but in places like Turkey (my country) and Armenia, the right wing ideals are inherently tied to religion. Being right wing automatically means you're devoted religious here, in terms of expectations.

 

[WH15KeY]

What I am trying to say is, the majority of these incel forums don't even promote kindness to other members. It is just a circle jerk for racism and everything that is hateful.

The forums have little to do with being an incel these days.

 

[Aedra]

What I am trying to say is, the majority of these incel forums don't even promote kindness to other members. It is just a circle jerk for racism and everything that is hateful.

The forums have little to do with being an incel these days.

It used to be different prior to about late 2020 or so. I agree that whatever the incel "community" is, it went to shit a while ago, I'm only defending the core ideas and not necessarily the people who currently participate in those spaces.