Have centralized messenger apps been a disaster for the internet culture?

[Plier]

I have been putting a lot of thought into this lately, has centralized messenging apps been a mistake? It killed forums, and now most people instead of creating a forum or whatever just create a discord server. This is extremely bad since, if you want to find x stuff in a x thing community, you can't just google it and find it, you must join discord and search it in there. I know messanging apps existed back then, like MSN, etc, but i think only group friends used it, i don't think whole communities went to MSN, instead of forums. In sort it's over, there is no turning back, the internet is dead

 

[Steve]

I have been putting a lot of thought into this lately, has centralized messenging apps been a mistake? It killed forums, and now most people instead of creating a forum or whatever just create a discord server. This is extremely bad since, if you want to find x stuff in a x thing community, you can't just google it and find it, you must join discord and search it in there. I know messanging apps existed back then, like MSN, etc, but i think only group friends used it, i don't think whole communities went to MSN, instead of forums. In sort it's over, there is no turning back, the internet is dead

You're forgetting that discord didn't kill forums, social media killed forums. in the late 2000s MySpace and Twitter were centralized networks where people kinda just mingled for around a decade and with how delete happy those sites are they were also bad for finding X thing, but people didn't tend to have knowledge in them they usually went to wikis for whatever X thing community was. Discord is worse because its a bunch of closed gardens and finding stuff is impossible, I think forums are on the up though because people yearn for the old net and the open structure of the 2000s, even just the shlog has experienced some pretty major growth, but there are other big ass forums like Kiwi Farms and ResetEra that didn't exist before the social media revolution but are prominent now and continue to thrive. I do not believe its over, especially because people are moving away from discord in droves.

if I were to put the current millennias net into brackets I would do

Early to Mid 2000s: Imageboards and Forums (Vbulletin)
Late 2000s - Late 2010s: Social Media
Late 2010s - Now: Discords and Forums (Xenforo)

 

[Aedra]

Idk about you Americans but a lot of Turkish forums are still alive and extremely popular too. They never really died out here.

 

[gigaslot]

Twitter, Reddit, and Discord have siphoned a majority of internet traffic just by how big they've gotten. Discord and Reddit, I'd argue doe, still retain a level of community with the ability to create your own spaces/communities. Twitter has nothing redeamable about it other than the fact they still allow porn (like after Tumblr axed NSFW stuff). It's the internet equivalent of Yugoslavia in the 90s by lumping multiple groups of people who hate each other in a single space.

 

[DonutHole]

While the dominance of centralized messaging apps has undoubtedly changed how people communicate online, it is not entirely true to say that the internet is completely dead. While forums have certainly declined in popularity, there are still numerous online communities and alternatives that continue to thrive. Additionally, the rise of social media platforms has created new avenues for communication and discussion that were not possible with forums alone.
It's also worth noting that centralized messenger apps provide a level of convenience and accessibility that traditional forums cannot match. As such, it is not accurate to say that the decline of forums is a wholly negative phenomenon.

 

[Aedra]

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[Aedra]

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[DonutHole]

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[istanbul]

It's the internet equivalent of Yugoslavia in the 90s by lumping multiple groups of people who hate each other in a single space.

I don't understand your analogy plus it was the serbs at fault for that

 

[gigaslot]

I don't understand your analogy plus it was the serbs at fault for that

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