/DJT/ - THE DQNALD GENERAL

The Trump administration seems to have begun a peace process for Ukraine today. Hegseth confirmed that Ukraine will remain outside of NATO and that it won't recover the territories that it's lost in the conflict with Russia. Furthermore, Trump announced earlier today on Truth Social that he had a "highly productive" phone call with Putin, where they agreed to begin negotiations for an end to the war, and, an hour ago, that another phone call was conducted between him and Zelensky, also agreeing on a beginning to negotiations.
The previous defense secretary went to the hospital for THREE DAYS WITHOUT TELLING ANYONE while the current defense secretary gets up early to do drills at the marine Corp base he was staying at. The difference could not be more stark.
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even doe ukraine's pre-2014 borders looked nicer
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there's no fucking way how ukraine is going to take back all of this lost territory from russia GEG
I never cared enough to pick a side, but to me it always seemed like Ukraine was sending their people off to die for lines on a map that would never be achieved.
Ukraine and every other country is its people, not it's borders.
Even then, Ukraine lost more land fighting than it would have if it conceded (i think, i forget what pre-war Ukraine looked like at this point)
 
I don't know what good has come to us by keeping it.
My family is Puerto Aryan, and even I don't see a point outside of giving people a tax haven that they don't need a passport for.
Also, they've had 11 votes for statehood, but the majority votes no because it's more efficient to leech off of America as a territory than to pay your dues as a state.
I don't think they even want independence.
 
I never cared enough to pick a side, but to me it always seemed like Ukraine was sending their people off to die for lines on a map that would never be achieved.
Ukraine and every other country is its people, not it's borders.
Even then, Ukraine lost more land fighting than it would have if it conceded (i think, i forget what pre-war Ukraine looked like at this point)
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pre-2014
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after 2014/pre-invasion
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2025
 
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