thread_prefix.26 The Landfill: Derailments Found Here!

[terrycrews]

And yeah I used the twitter word marginalized for lack of a better one

 

[baqqrih]

You can discriminate them but it's not really racism if that makes sense

How can't it be called racism? It doesn't make sense to me.

 

[Fagon]

I hate niggers but we're both poor so it's not like I have power over them so I'm not racist.

 

[terrycrews]

How can't it be called racism? It doesn't make sense to me.

Because it's about discriminating against them but if you don't have the power to do that you can't really discriminate against them where it matters

 

[ILoveCoals]

Because it's about discriminating against them but if you don't have the power to do that you can't really discriminate against them where it matters

I'm actually laughing reading this right now

 

[baqqrih]

Because it's about discriminating against them but if you don't have the power to do that you can't really discriminate against them where it matters

You'd still be discriminating against them with the drive of that prejudice being their race. I don't know where we're getting the fact that power has an effect on the definition. It'd be like saying that women can't be sexist to men because men hold more positions of power.

 

[Fagon]

I'm actually laughing reading this right now

this is word for word what black women say to justify them crying about wypipo KEK. Just say you're racist and hate turks, nobody cares.

 

[baqqrih]

Just say you hate turks, nobody cares.

I care.

 

[terrycrews]

You'd still be discriminating against them with the drive of that prejudice being their race. I don't know where we're getting the fact that power has an effect on the definition. It'd be like saying that women can't be sexist to men because men hold more positions of power.

Yeah and you'd be correct, I don't really care if a woman is sexist to me because they don't matter to me so it's not really discriminatory

 

[Fagon]

I care.

I worded it poorly, my point is that nobody cares whether it counts as "racist" or not, they care that you hate turks.

 

[terrycrews]

I worded it poorly, my point is that nobody cares whether it counts as "racist" or not, they care that you hate turks.

I don't even hate turks I just have bad experiences with them

 

[baqqrih]

Yeah and you'd be correct, I don't really care if a woman is sexist to me because they don't matter to me so it's not really discriminatory

That'd be a personal view conflicting with defining discrimination, then. Just like how you always talk about kicking the crap out of people, you would still be kicking their butt even if they said it didn't bother them to get beaten up. It wouldn't change the fact that you are kicking their butt, the power dynamic and the personal opinion of the victim don't have a role in defining the definition of the action.

 

[terrycrews]

That'd be a personal view conflicting with defining discrimination, then. Just like how you always talk about kicking the crap out of people, you would still be kicking their butt even if they said it didn't bother them to get beaten up. It wouldn't change the fact that you are kicking their butt, the power dynamic and the personal opinion of the victim don't have a role in defining the definition of the action.

Well I don't see what that has to do with racism

 

[Fagon]

I don't even hate turks

I do

 

[terrycrews]

I do

Good for you dude I guess

 

[baqqrih]

Well I don't see what that has to do with racism

It's an analogy, what I'm saying is that the action of racism is unaffected by the personal view of the victim of it in response to the racist action, as well as the power dynamic of the racism also having no effect on the definition, as it is still the action of prejudice towards a race no matter the other influences upon the facets of the action.

 

[terrycrews]

It's an analogy, what I'm saying is that the action of racism is unaffected by the personal view of the victim of it in response to the racist action, as well as the power dynamic of the racism also having no effect on the definition, as it is still the action of prejudice towards a race no matter the other influences upon the facets of the action.

Well by that example everyone is racist so it's a meaningless term, everyone has unconscious biases

 

[baqqrih]

Well by that example everyone is racist so it's a meaningless term, everyone has unconscious biases

Not necessarily, as people can have these biases, but not always to the extent of prejudice, or a disliking of certain peoples from the generalization of their ethnic group under a singular notion. Therefore, racism is that prejudiced generalization, for one example of it.

 

[terrycrews]

Not necessarily, as people can have these biases, but not always to the extent of prejudice, or a disliking of certain peoples from the generalization of their ethnic group under a singular notion. Therefore, racism is that prejudiced generalization, for one example of it.

Well I disagree I don't really think that's racism

 

[baqqrih]

Well I disagree I don't really think that's racism

I guess we can just call the conversation there, then. We have two different definitions of the term that won't change. It's a pleasure to speak with you.